On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 15:37 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Jan 12, 2010, at 01:53 PM, David Siegel wrote: > > >Drawing upon the discussion surrounding the bug "Underline under > >accelerator characters in buttons and menu bar should only show when Alt > >is pressed"*, Rich Jones suggested curbing the display of all keyboard > >shortcuts in menus. At first, I thought this was a ludicrous suggestion, > >but then I took a look at the mockups Rich attached to his bug report > >(https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/493762) and I > >found that the menus seemed significantly easier to use! > > The menus do look nice with much less clutter, though I also worry about > discoverability. There's a bug comment about keyboard-only users, which I > definitely am (when the app will let me!).
Barry, as a keyboard-heavy user, clearly removing keyboard shortcuts categorically would be devastating, but how do you think the change to only showing keyboard shortcuts for the highlighted menu entry would affect you? > > The shortcut display is all about discoverability. When I know the bindings, > I'm never even going to look at the menu usually. When I don't know the > binding, having them in the menu is great, and the clutter doesn't bother me > at all, because it contains exactly the information I'm looking for. > > Note too that Gnome supports changing the shortcuts by hovering over the menu > item and hitting the key chord you want. So if you get rid of the shortcuts > you still have to support this use case. Very interesting. I just tried to assign a shortcut to Crop (which oddly has no keyboard shortcut by default) and it did not work. David > > I'll also note that a large part of the problem is that the words "Shift" and > "Ctrl" are spelled out, with pluses in between. Perhaps a cue can be taken > from OS X where there are easy to recognize icons for each modifier key. On > OS X they shortcuts don't seem nearly as cluttering. I guess it helps that > there typically are fewer of them (though changing them is the job of a > separate application, making it much less convenient). > > -Barry > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
