How do people feel about Thunderbird's message tabs? On a small screen I very much prefer to switch off the preview pane and have messages open in new tabs, and I think so would many other users.
Also, things like the search and filter dropdowns in evolution taking up a whole whack of vertical space (together with a useless indicator of which folder you're in above the folder tree) waste a tremendous amount of space. Very much agree that evolution can do with some attention -- looks extremely dated. On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 16:13 +0000, Shane Fagan wrote: > Hi all, > > I thought id look at evolution after reading Mark's post. Oh and id like > to make a quick notes, > > 1. I hate most menu structures, a lot of the programs in Gnome tend to > repeat either what is in the main UI or in the preferences dialogues. > > 2. I love how google chrome and how most of the Windows desktop has > moved away from the menu bar approach to strip out the UI cruft. > > 3. I think Evolution is one of the worst UIs in the the free desktop > because there is so much wasted space, grey useless space and repeated > functionality in the main UI and the Menus. > > > Ok so the easy removal first, the status bar is a lot of wasted space > and could be either moved or removed to save space for small screens. > > > Now the menu structure > File: > New [makes sense] > New window [doesnt make much sense for most users] > Send Receive [is easier to use in the main UI] > Backup settings [should be in the preferences dialog] > Restore settings [should be only in the accounts setup dialog] > Save message [makes some sense but could be done somewhere else] > Subscribe to other users folder [doesnt make much sense for most users] > Permissions [Ive never used this id like to know what people use it for > but it shouldnt be a main menu item] > Import [Ive never used it but I dont mind keeping it there if people use > it] > Page setup [could be done in preferences] > Print preview [could be combined with the print dialog anyway] > Print [is the norm so it should be there] > Empty trash [maybe should be a button in the main UI rather than here] > Download messages for offline usage [If you use pop it does this anyway] > Forget passwords [should be done in the preferences dialog] > Close window [doesnt make too much sense because evolution doesnt work > in the backround like gwibber aggregating and displaying a notification > when a message comes in so it doesnt make sense anyway] > Quit [ok] > > > Edit: > Copy [why do we need 3 different ways to copy something?] > Select all text [this is the only program that uses this menu item and > ctrl+a is a lot easier] > Delete message [isnt that what the del key on the keyboard is for? Its > in the main UI too and its an option when the user right clicks] > Undelete [this is an insane one IMO] > Find in message [thats what the search box is for] > Sync options [Who has a palm pilot? I dont and thats all this menu item > is for] > Message filters [has its uses but something isnt right about it] > Search folders [thats what the search box is for] > Plugins [Hmmmmm has its uses but they are all enabled by default anyway > but its fine where it is] > Preferences [ok] > > > View: [There is a lot here that should be done in preferences] > > > Folder: [A lot of this menu is already in the main UI] > > > Message: [A lot of whats here appears in the main UI and in file>add and > if you right click] > > > Search: [Thats what the search box is for] > > > Help: [ok] > > > > Its very clear that Evolution is aimed at enterprises and not the bog > standard user on the street. Its interface is clunky and repeats itself > a lot so is quite bad if your using it on a netbook. I use it myself but > after looking at Windows mail client in Windows 7 and Thunderbird 3, > Evolution looks like it was designed in 1998. If you look at all the > white space in the UI its quite ridiculous. We should really give it a > serious design look for 10.10 > > Anyone else any thoughts on Evolution? > > > Regards, > Shane Fagan > ---------- > Software development student > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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