2010/5/21 Conscious User <[email protected]> > > Part of messagING, as in "using an instant messenger", but not > part of messagES, as in "an usual action when sending or > receiving messages". The Message Menu deals with messagES.
The name is *Messaging Menu*: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu/ So I think you partly misunderstood its function. > I can understand your use case, but I'm having trouble not > considering it a corner one. Corner cases concern less used functions, or infrequent combinations of more used functions. I'm talking about well-known functions and most usual combinations of them. Moreover, all other interfaces similar to Ubuntu indicator (like dock in Mac OS X) work with the behavior that I will. There is a reason, I think. The reason is usability and simplicity. Users expect this, IMHO. > >From the messaging menu, you receive messages from specific > senders. >From Messaging Menu, you can receive broadcast messages. I cite: * * *Recommended behavior for feed readers and microblogging clients* A feed reader or microblogging client should register itself when you add any feeds or accounts, and unregister itself when you remove the last feed or account. It should also provide a “Show {Name of Program} in the messaging menu” checkbox in its settings. *For the purpose of the messaging menu, a new message is an unread item that the program discovered since the last tim*e you (a) performed any action in the program or (b) selected the corresponding item in the messaging menu. *Whether an item is important enough to include in the messaging menu may be configurable within the program.* A feed reader should provide one message source item for each feed that contains new messages. A microblogging client should provide one message source item for each account that contains new messages. (It should do this for all relevant feeds or accounts even though a maximum of six will be shown, because that maximum may change in the future.)" Messaging Menu was designed for purposes *wider* than those that you mentioned. I can *receive* a personal or broadcast message from the Messaging Menu, and I can *send* a broadcast message from MeMenu. To assign MeMenu to broadcasts and Messaging Menu to 1-to-1 messages is *not * in specifications. Moreover: there is a very slight difference between broadcasts and 1-to-1 messages. Pretty each 1-to-1 instant messenger has a broadcast function (status, presence) and each social network has 1-to-1 chat. So I think astrong separation isn't in the minds of users, even in the mind of facebook/twitter/identi.ca/msn/jabber/sip developers and even less in the specification of Ubuntu indicators. > You don't have to agree with the reasons and I myself do not > consider them perfect, but assuming that they don't exist > is wrong, and a little bit rude considering you could've > tried asking for them before simply assuming it is a > deliberately overlooked inconsistency. :) > You see, Mark admits the (partial) inconsistency and Mark know well what is MeMenu and Messaging Menu. Frankly, you have a your own idea of them, that is slighty different from specifications. I assume specifications exist and I read them.
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