2011/1/18 [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Expéditeur:* Jeremy Nickurak < <[email protected]>[email protected]> >> >> *Date:* 17 janvier 2011 18:38:01 HNE >> >> *Destinataire:* Jean Levasseur < <[email protected]> >> [email protected]> >> >> *Objet:* *Rép : [Ayatana] Evolution indicator* >> >> "evolution-alarm-notify", however, is a service. Maybe we need an >> evolution-mail-notify service to fill the same area? Might be more work to >> implement it that way however. How does evolution-data-server fit into this? >> Is there already most of the code to do this as a "service" that sits in the >> background and lacks the overhead of a full UI? >> >> > there's gmail-notify, it has been around for a while and is supported by > the MeMenu >
Yes, but it does work for gmails account only. What if I'm using an e-mail provided by my ISP? > * UMA and setting up account details should be seperated entities, imo. > > You set up your account details to the system, Ubuntu. About Me is perhaps > going to be abolished, or not, regardless, it is a personal identity form > which will be the central place to enter your account details for social > networking sites, popular chat services and email accounts. > I'm yet to understand how exactly this data is used by my system... > Then, there should be a system agent able to use that data to log in to the > server and fetch information about new incoming messages, perhaps get their > headers, so that would preferrably be an imap client, but it may be > pop-enabled also, either way is possible. > That's exactly what I'm looking for! > so, seen from the beginners mind, i turn on my computer for the first time > with vanilla Ubuntu Unity installed on it. > The firstrun wizard asks me to enter some information about who i am, so > that it can configure this machine to receive my digital identity. > I enter my First Name and my Last Name, my emailaddress e.g. [email protected] . > A throbber appears and gives me the feeling that the wizard is acting on > that personal information i just contributed. Now out of the throbber > another question appears: "would you like to be notified about new emails?", > this with a cropped screencast-like animation that demoes Ubuntu's default > email notification method (Messaging Menu indicators & Notify OSD) > That's all nice but another topic: we are not talking about account set-up here, but about information fetching in the backgroud. > > now i can say "yes" to email notification in the manner advertised to me by > the cropped screencast-like animation of Messaging Indicators / Notify OSD > in action. > > The wizard now asks me about my chat account and offers the 5 most popular > services, plus a button for "other". > e.g. "would you like to see new chat messages, too?", this with another > cropped screencast-like animation of the Messaging Indicators / Notify OSD > in respective action. > ( This wheel was reinvented a zillion times with each chat app that has > come and gone, code is lying around, or is not difficult to conceive due to > this fact ) > I like the animation, it shows me a very elegant notification process, just > like in those pretty Ubuntu Natty+1 release notes i saw on the website. > I say Yes and the system indicates activity, as it fetches my contact list > from the entered services in the background already. > In the meantime, something like a business card is evolving, due to the > information i am contributing. My generic avatar-placeholder is filled with > the avatar that is stored on the server of chat account, who'se details i > recently contributed in about the second dialog i was presented with upon > firstrun. > > So there's my business card, a metaphor for my identity represented in the > digital world, evolving into a complete personal information set, free for > me to disclose to the world at my convenience. > > Now i hope i'm not "online" marked as "available" by default already, > because i surely want to know and decide myself, when i become "visible", so > there is a checkbox named "invisible", which is already checked (doesn't > work for facebook chat). fortunately, at the end of my configuration fun, > there's a final question: > > "Do you want to go online?" > > I check the aggregated virtual business card on my virtual workspace, see > that the information was received correctly, no typos, those accounts i want > enabled when i go on are ticked, so i say "Yes" again.. ..and the messaging > menu is populated. > > > > Personally, i don't know to what extent it is already important to include > Social Networking services here, such as identi.ca or facebook. Even > twitter might be too much for starters. > That would have to be subject to user testing. > This is a vision some of us have already begun to describe, and i hope this > little Userland story helps people who didn't know about it see it, too. > All of that is pretty nice, but I'm looking for someting a lot simplier for now. We have a way to fetch software updates seamlessly, I'm looking for the same kind of system to fetch e-mails/feeds seamlessly. No need for a complicated "identity set-up wizard" for now to get it working. The only difference from now is that, my mail client will fetch imap/pop mail in the background whenever there is an internet connection and then pop a notification bubble upon reception. There's already that empathy service that can run in background, without the client running, if I understood it well. Let's keep it simple and build on what we already have! I don't know the technical details about evolution-data-server, but when I encountered that entry in my session set-up, I firstly though that was exactly what I was looking for. Perhaps I was wrong, but can it play a role into that?
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