On 18 February 2011 12:25, Luke Benstead <kaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 18 February 2011 11:10, David Stevenson <da...@avoncliff.com> wrote: >> On 18/02/11 04:38, Greg K Nicholson wrote: >>>> Why not integrate (and hide) the menu bar in the title bar instead for >>>> ummaximized windows? >>> >>> This makes sense logically. >> >> I also like this idea. My top panel has always been full, the first >> thing I do on any install is to delete the bottom bar and put all the >> information I want in the top bar. So now I need to hide information I >> have been used to having visible to make room for menus while leaving a >> title bar empty. >> >>> The massive downside to all of this is Fitts's law: the effective >>> target area of a menu bar is vastly reduced when it isn't at the >>> screen's edge. For that reason alone, and despite its logical and >>> aesthetic elegance, I think we have to reject this idea. >> >> Have users really been having problems clicking on menus? I know we are >> all different but I would not have thought this affected many users. >> >> David >> > > Yeah, I don't think it's that much of a problem. Fitt's law keeps > being quoted as an excuse to do stuff over and above other factors. > I'm still unhappy that the global menu has been implemented despite > not-working well with dual-monitors, focus follows mouse, or really > large resolutions, but whenever this gets mentioned "Fitt's law" seems > to be the overriding excuse. We need to stop putting so much emphasis > on Fitt's law, it's only one element of good usability. > > My suggestion is that we shouldn't be hiding menus behind titles, it > would be far more sensible (IMO) to consistently display the > application name in the title bar of each window as a menu, whose > submenu consists of the current menu bar (e.g. display "Firefox" next > to the window controls, clicking "Firefox" would display a drop down > menu containing "File", "Edit" etc.). If a window is maximized then > the panel becomes the title bar. > > Luke. >
Quick mockup of what I mean: http://i.imgur.com/a763I.png clicking the orange Firefox button would bring down a drop down menu. Luke. _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp