-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Conscious User wrote on 01/04/11 18:57: > >> The idea that all non-immediate "notifications" should be grouped >> together in a single place, regardless of topic, is very much like the >> idea that progress for all long-running tasks should be grouped >> together in a single place regardless of task. It's the kind of >> categorization that may make perfect sense to engineers, but to others >> it risks looking like a jumble of unrelated things. > > What are your thoughts on, for example, what Jockey, PolicyKit and File > Transfer currently do? They basically use an appindicator to persist, > just like Update Manager did in the past with the notification area. > Do you think this should be the standard procedure for all apps that > do not fit in the current categories (messaging and sound)?
Absolutely not. > If no, how should they be fixed? If yes, why not do something similar > for Update Manager instead of popping up the window? Designing a replacement for Jockey's menu is something I'm working on this week. Maybe it can be merged into Update Manager, or maybe there's a better place for it. Anyone got suggestions? <http://launchpad.net/bugs/617392> Even if these one-off menus were a good idea, the PolicyKit one -- like the Jockey one -- would be more confusing than useful: I doubt there is any rewording of "Drop elevated privileges" that would be widely understandable. I think this should just be deleted, or replaced with a "Remember my password for 5 minutes" checkbox in the Authenticate dialog. <http://launchpad.net/bugs/550502> And the File Operations menu is just a workaround for not having a real progress window, i.e. a window that is minimizable but not closable. <http://launchpad.net/bugs/534477> >> One of the motivations behind the introduction of Notify OSD was >> to encourage applications to use general-purpose notification systems >> less often. Notifications of things are more helpful if they are >> closer to those things, for example embedded in relevant windows. > > Aren't the most common usage of notifications the situations where > relevant windows are *not* currently in sight, or when there is no > such thing as "relevant windows" at all? Only if you define "notifications" as "things that aren't already being shown in a relevant window". :-) - -- mpt -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2a3jsACgkQ6PUxNfU6ecoAEACfZSy/BMk+xNYT224xqrAe07aT D9wAn37h5BJY44T8CmZ5OJd7IBZDOOnA =l5C3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp