HOORAY. I can finally post to the list without it showing up as "Message Unavailable". :-)
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:54 PM, ello <[email protected]> wrote: > 1) Putting the launchers at the bottom/lense at the top impedes the > function of the bar (as I see it): You want the things you want close at > hand. So, if you invoke the bar by moving the mouse, you don't want to > move too much to launch the things you want. A user uses the lenses > less than the launchers IMO (the lenses are there to find programs you > don't usually use or, if you do use them often, you put them in the bar) > I'm not married to either one being at the top or the bottom. What I am OPPOSED to, is the lenses changing location when I add or remove another launcher. That's no good. Something that serves as a natural extension to the Dash should always be located in the same place, IMO. I don't really care where they go, as long as they're separated and the lenses are in a fixed position. 2) I agree that the Files and the Applications Lenses should be > combined. > I don't want them combined. I want the ability to remove the lens lanucher square, without having to uninstall the lens completely (like it is now). Imagine my surprise when I uninstalled the Apps and Files lenses (to get them off my launcher), only to find I could no longer type my application name on the dash's search bar and have it do anything. :-( > 3) The menu in the window title bar. While it solves the space issue > and the moving-up-to-the-top problem (the latter isn't much of a problem > for me, but then I've got a tiny 1440x900 monitor) it restricts window > size. What if the user wants a window smaller than the length of the > menu? This problem is already solved by other programs, like OO.o and Chrome and FF and... ">>" buttons. Show what you can, expand what you cant. Maybe I should add that to the mock-up. > What about themes where the window title is centered? > Well I guess we don't use those. We lose some form to gain some function; it is certainly better than the current trend (of sacrificing functionality to make things look nice, which happens with aggravating frequency in Unity, and unbelievable regularity in Gnome 3). Here's an idea: a single click on the window name (or F10) opens the > global menu on the panel, with the mouse already there at the first > entry. > Since my messages haven't been getting through, you may not have seen this, but *in my opinion* (I highlight this because it is a strong opinion, but opinion nonetheless): No. No, no, no. Under no circumstances should UI elements as important as pull-down menus *ever* be hidden, ever. Yes, I know there's a push to clean up useless chrome, but this isn't useless (nor is it really "chrome"). It's a horrible idea now, it was a horrible idea before, it will continue to be a horrible idea in the future. It is Unity's biggest mistake, IMO, way more offensive than the global menu location fiasco. Users, especially new ones, should never have to play hide-and-seek with something as fundamental as an application's menu system. (They shouldn't ever have to play hide-and-seek, or find-the-icon, or any other mini-game with _any_ UI element, IMO, but especially big important things like pull-down menus and the global menuing system.) If a particular set of power users want an option that hides the menus? I'm fine with that; but OOTB, I strongly disagree with the idea of hidden anything (first thing I do is stop the launcher from auto-hiding, in fact). --G
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