There are a number of surnamed Vitorino, Victorino, Victorine in the Sacramento 
CA area, as my funeral-notice files show.  Let me know if you'd like to see 
them.
 
Lionel

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Victorino
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Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 9:23 AM


The Victorino name is also of interest in my father's family. It first appeared 
as the middle name of my great grandfather Francisco Victorino de Vasconcellos, 
born in Fazenda das Lages, Flores in 1798, son of Francisco Ignacio de 
Vasconcellos. He was the only one of 8 siblings to carry Victorino  ( nowadays 
spelled Vitorino) as a middle name. Most of his descendants (male and female) 
carried it as a middle name including part of my generation. Back in the Azores 
it almost became an alcunha. My first cousin Father Francisco Vitorino 
Vasconcelos (now deceased) and former pastor of Nossa Senhora da Conceicao in 
Santa Cruz, Flores was familiarly known as "Padre Vitorino" by his parishiners. 
The family is sometimes refered to as "Os Vitorinos" back on Flores. Some of my 
first cousins back on Flores have Vitorino as a middle name. However, I don't 
know offhand of any of the next generation which have Vitorino as a middle 
name. And, as far as i know, it
 was never used as a surname.
John James Vasconcelos, son of Joao Vitorino Vasconcelos


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Mystery Deepens--Manuel Azevedo



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Victorina is a name I'm also interested in because my ggrandfather Joseph 
Veterino was really Jose Victorino Bitencourt from Sao Jorge......I've been 
researching the Baptisms recently posted for Topo and I've found lots and lots 
of the name Victorino and Victorina.....frequently the name is connected to 
Oliveiras and Bitencourt (which I've seen spelled several different ways)....in 
some instances the Victorino name appears to be the surname and in others is a 
middle or first name....
The most interesting thing is how certain names are clustered in certain areas 
with Machado being the most frequent name on Sao Jorge in all the different 
areas on line to research.
 
I love the mystery......
Nancy Jean Baptiste......(Baptista)





Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:33:28 -0700
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Mystery Deepens--Manuel Azevedo
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Hi Elaine, 
Thanks!  I went thru old info I had and found that, yes indeed, both Ritas are 
the same woman, but I'm not sure where the Victorina name came from, and (so 
far) that name only appears in Vencelaos death certificate.  She is Rita Maria 
(de) Mendonca everywhere else.

So, my hunt continues...I will keep all posted.

Guida

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Mystery Deepens--Manuel Azevedo
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Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 6:26 PM




Guida,
 
Welcome to the club where they used any name they so desired at any time they 
so desired.  So it's possible they could be the same woman, especially given 
the first name Rita on both.  On one of my a male relative's baptism record it 
lists pai incognito BUT on his son's baptism record it lists his paternal 
grandfather.  That is how I found how who the father of the male relative with 
pai incognito was--somehow they were willing to admit it later on the grandsons 
record?????
 
"E"











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