Guida, I'm fortunate to have one Grandmother still alive.  She's 82, and was 
born here in the US, but my Great Grandfather (her Dad) was born in Sao Miguel 
and came over as a youngster.  He always went back and forth throughout his 
adult life. 

I've talked to her quite a bit about the genealogy thing over the last two 
years since I got interested in it.  One day I was asking her what the deal was 
with two first cousins marrying each other in our family (I'm descended from 
them), and she responded with something my Great Grandfather told her:  "You 
never knew what the hell was going on in the Old Country, and you didn't ask- 
but there was always something going on".  

Another Great Grandfather of mine on my Mother's side would routinely disappear 
unannounced and it caused my Mom's Mom, her Mother, and her sisters tremendous 
hardship.  With this guy, I don't think the wanderlust ever went away- even 
when he made it to the US from Sao Miguel.  In what should have been an omen, 
he and my Great Grandmother were due to be married in New Bedford, and he 
"vanished" the night before.  Four years later he turned up claiming that he 
was walking past a bar down by the docks and was shanghaied (whacked over the 
head, knocked out, and woke up on a whaling ship).  He definitely ended up on a 
whaling ship, but my suspicion is that he willingly signed on.  

He would take off for a few years at a time for the rest of his life.  My 
Mother is convinced that he had kids everywhere that weren't with my Great 
Grandmother.  I know that some of my Grandmother's sisters never forgave him.  

Jay Fraga






  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Guida Leicester 
  To: [email protected] 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:23 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Victorino


        Loretta,
        The human interest element of our Island ancestors intrigues me more 
and more as I watch the posts go up with all the pai incognitos.  The lines and 
pedigrees on paper can get very confusing, but the multi-dimensional humans 
behind the lineage is what I want to learn more about.  

        What motivated/drove these folks?  Hard work, no education, little 
support from the mainland government, boredon, island fever, boredom, what 
else/que mais?

        Anecdotal stories/family legends like yours are what I want to 
hear/learn more from everyone.  Please forward me your family legends to : 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

        Obrigada, everyone!
        Guida

        --- On Tue, 10/14/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

          From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
          Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Victorino
          To: [email protected]
          Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 9:18 AM


          Hi 
          Victorino is the middle name for my grandfather and uncles. My 
greatgrand mother came from Sao Jorge, she was never married and the rumor goes 
she had affairs wiith the man who lived on the hill across the road. On my 
uncles death cert someone gave the name Carreria. All were incognito.

          Loretta Aguiar Valdez


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