In Brazil... granddad = vovô [something like "vovoe"]; granma = vovó  [like 
"vovaw"]. 




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Enviadas: Domingo, 26 de Outubro de 2008 16:18:08
Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vavo ???

In a message dated 10/26/2008 1:58:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
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John;  If its an “island thing” then it must cover Flores, 

  

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My parents were from Flores so it's possible it's an island thing.  At least  
Sammy agrees with me.
John

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vavo ???

I just know I’m first generation here and my parents had taught my brother and 
I to call my grandmother Vavo, one grandfather had passed away and the other 
was in the old country and then passed when I was nine so I never had to use 
Vavu. My cousins on the other hand who were first generation here as well 
always called their grandparents Vavo and Vavu. As far as Avo or Avu, I always 
thought it was used as the first person like; mia avo or mia avu.





I am spelling this the way it’s pronounced in English and not sure it’s 
correctly spelled in Portuguese.





Could it be the different islands or the mainland that have different dialects 
on it? I’ve found that different cities on just one island like Sao Miguel had 
different pronunciations on words. My parents use to tell me that Rabo de Peixe 
had a very sloppy dialect and that you could actually listen to people and know 
exactly what city they were from. I can understand everything, at least I 
thought until I heard someone from Lisboa, it was harder for me to understand 
them.





Linda










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Vavo??  I am a little puzzled about how this term of endearment for 
"grandmother" came into useage. My parents were both born in the Azores. When 
refering to my grandmothers (who incidently, I never had the opportunity to 
meet), the term they used was "Vaw Vaw"   derived from "A Vaw" (the phonetic 
pronuciation) of the portuguese word for grandmother. Can anyone enlighten me?

Incidently, my sister's grandchildren have come up with their own term of 
endearment for her. They call her "Vaw Vee".
at the risk of further confusion, I think I'll stop there.
John Vasconcelos

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Laura,What a heart warming story of yours........brought tears to my eyes.  I 
want to thank Linda for sharing that she wants to be called Vavo.  It is 
because of her that I toooo will be called Vavo when I become a grandmother for 
the first time in May of 2009.  Thank you again Linda and Laura for sharing 
your stories.Theresa Aguiar Noia Court -------------- Original message 
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Avô/grandfather, (pronounced Uh-vooh, as in boo!) for which the diminutive is 
vavô (pronounced vuh-voo) and sometimes avôzinho on the mainland.
Avó/grandmother, (pronounced Ah-vaw), for which the diminutive is vavó 
(pronounced vuh-vaw) and sometimes avózinha on the mainland.

The exact pronunciations and intonations vary from island to island but there 
are no different "dialects" spoken on the islands, anymore than there is in the 
US. Somebody like me, born and raised in Fall River, Massachusetts, speaks the 
same English as is spoken in Macon, Georgia (with some minor regional 
peculiarities, e.g., reckon vs. figure), but it takes some getting used to for 
me to follow a conversation between rural Georgians who no doubt need to adjust 
their ears to follow the conversation between rural Yankees. But both Yankees 
and southerners speak standard American English, albeit with very different 
accents and some regionalisms. The same is true between Azoreans from different 
islands and even more so between the islanders and the mainlanders.

John


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