Hi, Margaret, hi, John, Thanks, you are both incredible! May I add to the list I made to Margaret yet another son of Tomé Raposo and Sebastiana da Costa, just pointed out by John. Allow me to quote:
"[email protected] *Jan 12 04:42PM -0500** There is also their son Domingos Raposo born in S. José, who married Antónia Carvalho, also of S. José along with her parents, Domingos Dias and Maria Carvalho, on 27 April 1730 in S. José. John Miranda Raposo" * By the way, have you noticed Revista Michaelense, at Google Books? There are lots of genealogical information there, but only a few lines on each name can be seen on-line. Thank you both, again and again, Marcos. * * 2010/1/13 <[email protected]<azores%[email protected]> > > Today's Topic Summary > > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/azores/topics > > - Marriage > records<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_group_thread_0>[3 > Updates] > - Digest for [email protected] - 8 Messages in 6 > Topics<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_group_thread_1>[2 > Updates] > - ShirleyMay Re: > Mello<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_group_thread_2>[1 > Update] > - Fregoisia on Faial for Bria St. Cres. > residence<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_group_thread_3>[2 > Updates] > - Duarte's Tavern Pescadero > CA<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_group_thread_4>[1 > Update] > - > Pico<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_group_thread_5>[2 > Updates] > - Digest for [email protected] - 8 Messages in > 6<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_group_thread_6>[1 > Update] > - > Mello<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_group_thread_7>[2 > Updates] > - Negrito on > Faial<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_group_thread_8>[2 > Updates] > > Topic: Marriage > records<http://groups.google.com/group/azores/t/6d592be9ca7f0eb0> > > Tish M <[email protected]> Jan 12 05:39PM -0800 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_digest_top> > > Hi Margaret, > My husband and I have finished the baptisms from Santa Barbara, Santa > Maria > and I am now > on to the marriages. Now I need a few new Portuguese words. What words > will > tip me off as > to if the nubentes were related. > Thanks in advance, > Tish > > -- > sfig > Researching > Island: Santa Maria > Freguesia: Santa Barbara > > > > > Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> Jan 12 10:17PM -0500 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_digest_top> > > Hi Tish, > > This is for blood relations: > > 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree of consanguinity: "*primeiro, segundo e > terceiro > degrau de consanguinidade de que obtiveram dispensa por sentença > apostolica*". > > > Also, watch for; 1st, 2nd, and 3rd degree of licit affinity. It usually > reads like this; > > "*alem do primeiro, segundo e terceiro grau de afinidade licita, de que > obtiveram dispensa por sentença apostolica*". > > An exammple of "licit" would be when in-laws remarry each other after > their > respective husband/wife pass away, and or any other similar "legal" > relationship. > > Margaret Vicente > > > > > > > Sam Koester <[email protected]> Jan 12 07:53PM -0800 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_digest_top> > > Tish; If you should come across any records on Cordeiro, Soares, > Coelho, Tavares do Rego; I would greatly appreciate you sharing them > with me. Many thanks in advance, Sam in CA > > Sam in CA researching: Cordeiro,Soares, Coelho, Tavares > do Rego in Santa Maria; Faria in Pedro Miguel, Faial; > Fraga in Sao Jorge and Silva (island unknown). > > > On 1/12/2010 5:39 PM, Tish M wrote: > > > > Topic: Digest for [email protected] - 8 Messages in 6 > Topics<http://groups.google.com/group/azores/t/ce039af3a2a9db82> > > Marcos Arruda Raposo <[email protected]> Jan 12 11:27AM -0200 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_digest_top> > > Margaret, > > Here is what I know about the sons of *Tomé Raposo* (who died before > 1734) > and *Sebastiana da Costa. * In the marriage record of their son António > it > says that Tomé and Sebastiana were from Arrifes: > > *Antonio Raposo* married Vitoria Cordeiro, daughter of Bartolomeu > Afonso > Sardinha and Teresa Ferreira in Relva, 1721. Since men used to first > marry > at 25, let's take 1696 as his probable year of birth. Vitoria died > and Antonio married Maria de São José, who was the daughter of Manuel > de > Teves, of S. Antonio Além Capelas, and Maria de Souza, of S. José - > Ponta > Delgada, where the marriage took place in 1744. > > *Pedro Raposo, *christened in Patriarch S. José, married Antonia de > Souza, > christened in S. Sebastião, Ponta Delgada, daughter of André de Souza > and > Luzia de Almeida, in S. Sebastião, Ponta Delgada, 1734. Supposing Pedro > to > be 25 then, he should have been born around 1709. > > *Gonçalo Raposo*, christened in S. José, Ponta Delgada, married Maria > Pereira, of Bretanha, daughter of José Carvalho and Maria Pereira, in > S. > Antonio Além Capelas in 1735. It's reasonable to suppose he was born by > 1710. > > *Silvestre Raposo*, christened in S. José, Ponta Delgada, married Joana > Botelho, daughter of Amaro Botelho and Francisca Pacheco in S. Antonio > Além > Capelas 1n 1739. Let's assume Silvestre was born in 1714. After her > death, > he married Bárbara Medeiros, christened in S. Antonio Além Capelas , > daughter of Domingos de Souza and Teresa da Costa, in 1743, in that > same > parish. > > Except for my gggggfather Pedro, all the above information is the > result of > a research by John Miranda Raposo. > > Hope you will come across something. If you Raposos are from Arrifes, > as > mine, there should be a connection somehow. > > Thank you, so much, > Marcos. > P.S. - I've checked the Almanak Laemmert of Rio de Janeiro from 1880 to > 1889 > in quest for your José Pimentel, who arived here in 1880. > Unfortunately, he > was not be found. That doesn't mean he wasn't here, it only means he > did > not hold a position of visibility yet. > > > 2010/1/12 > <[email protected]<azores%[email protected]> > <azores%[email protected]<azores%[email protected]> > > > > > > > Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> Jan 12 06:54PM -0500 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_digest_top> > > Marcos, > I will include your list with my "Rapozo" research. If *Tomé Rapozo *x > Maria de Souza were having children in S. Jose, it is an indication > that > they were living there also. As I mentioned earlier I don't have files > that > far back yet however I have the films available to me dating > from1702-1879-Marriages-SJ, and 1641-1823-Obits. > > re your PS, ie Pimentel, thank you! > > Margaret > > > > > Topic: ShirleyMay Re: > Mello<http://groups.google.com/group/azores/t/5137988fa8fed554> > > Shirl Sereque <[email protected]> Jan 12 02:41PM -0600 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_digest_top> > > Hi, Shirley! > > I'll be glad to send you a copy also. I don't know why it never made it > to the azores site as I sent it twice (I didn't see it the first time). > > [email protected] > > On Jan 12, 2010, ShirleyMay <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Shirl, > > I am also interested in any Mello in the Massachusetts area. Would > > you please send me a scan of the microfilm? > > ShirleyMay > > Searching Vila Franca do Campo, and Povoação, São Miguel, Açores > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<azores%[email protected]>. > Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. > > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No > Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > > > > Topic: Fregoisia on Faial for Bria St. Cres. > residence<http://groups.google.com/group/azores/t/89bde6e30cebc3ea> > > Hughes Roselyn <[email protected]> Jan 12 10:20AM -0600 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_digest_top> > > I'm new to this group and my family is from Terceira. My Great Grand > Father was Jose Coelho Pinheiro and his father was Vital Pinheiro > Lourenco. So I know that there are quite a few Pinheiro's there. My > family was from Altares. > > As I said, I'm new to this but hopefully this might help. > > > > > > [email protected] Jan 12 01:00PM -0500 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_digest_top> > > Thanks Roselyn. > I will forward this to my cousin. > > Pat (Dutra/Anselmo) Nostrome > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hughes Roselyn <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:20 am > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fregoisia on Faial for Bria St. Cres. > residence > > > I'm new to this group and my family is from Terceira. My Great Grand > Father was Jose Coelho Pinheiro and his father was Vital Pinheiro > Lourenco. So I know that there are quite a few Pinheiro's there. My > family was from Altares. > > As I said, I'm new to this but hopefully this might help. > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<azores%[email protected]>. > > Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No > Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that > says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > > > Topic: Duarte's Tavern Pescadero > CA<http://groups.google.com/group/azores/t/ef7da007e54fbd6c> > > "Linda Norton" <[email protected]> Jan 12 06:22PM -0500 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_digest_top> > > When we went to Pescadero and ate at Duarte's we also did the light > house at > Pidgon Point. It's worth seeing. > > Linda Borges (Furtado) Norton > > _____ > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of > John Vasconcelos > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 4:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Duarte's Tavern Pescadero CA > > > We went to Duarte's several years ago and had the Artichoke soup for > lunch. > Great place. There is also a Portuguese hall on the main street there > also. > At nearby Pidgon point there is an old light light house. If I'm not > mistaken.there was also a shore whaling station on the coast nearby at > one > time. The area is definitely worth a days outing. > John Vasconcelos > > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Mary Bordi <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Nice article. It was also fun to read the comments. > > An interesting tidbit about Duarte's for you genealogists... > > Last time I was at Duarte's (in August, 2009) there were several > pictures on > the wall--sort of behind the entry door to the restaurant (not the > bar). One > was a "panororama" style--very long, don't know the proper term. It was > a > picture of some of the menfolk of the town. They were labeled with > names! I > found my grandmother's first cousin's husband who also happens to be > buried > in the cemetery there. I had never seen a picture of him. There were > many > Azoreans in the area at that time. > > If you are visiting Pescadero and the weather is dry, do visit St. > Anthony's > cemetery on Stage Rd north of town. > > Mary Bordi (15 miles or so from Pescadero.) > > > > On Jan 9, 2010, at 3:59 PM, E Sharp wrote: > > > > Interesting article on Duarte's Tavern in Pescadero - thinking of > going here is a few weeks for dinner. > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101971206 > > ""E" > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<azores%[email protected]> > > <mailto:azores%[email protected]<azores%[email protected]>> > . Follow the confirmation > directions when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No > Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.133/2612 - Release Date: > 01/10/10 > 14:35:00 > > > > Topic: Pico <http://groups.google.com/group/azores/t/935008b38dd06b67> > > "Gayle Machado" <[email protected]> Jan 12 07:14AM > -0800 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_digest_top> > > Vivian, > > No, my dad¹s family was from MA- specifically, Martha¹s Vineyard, Fall > River > and Taunton. I have met John and Fred Machado over at the Portuguese > Hall in > Easton. Not that they would remember me- they were serving dinners at > the > time and quite busy dealing with a hungry crowd. > Most of the relatives on this side of the family are Medeiros/ Madeiros > and > located in the San Jose/ Cupertino area. > > Sorry, I¹m of no help. > > Gayle > > > > > Alvin Goularte <[email protected]> Jan 12 02:05PM -0800 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_digest_top> > > Hi Vivian, Just thought I would butt in. My wife was born and grew up > in the Riverdale area. She is Velma Leal Goularte. The Leals have a long > history in the Riverdale area. My maternal grand parents were from Pico > (Madalena a nd Candalaria). > > Al > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Vivian Christy <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 7:20:20 PM > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico > > > Gayle, > > Are your Machado's from the Island of Pico? I have relatives in > Fresno, Riverdale, Laton, and San Luis Obispo. Just curious. Thank you, > Vivian (Silva) Christy > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<azores%[email protected]>. > Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No > Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. > <http://groups.google.com/group/Azores.%C2%A0>Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will > take you to "Edit my membership." > > > > Topic: Digest for [email protected] - 8 Messages in > 6<http://groups.google.com/group/azores/t/4c6cc497089f10a5> > > [email protected] Jan 12 04:42PM -0500 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_digest_top> > > In a message dated 1/12/2010 8:27:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, > > 1889 in quest for your José Pimentel, who arived here in 1880. > > Unfortunately, he was not be found. That doesn't mean he wasn't here, > it only means he > > did not hold a position of visibility yet. > > There is also their son Domingos Raposo born in S. José, who married > Antónia Carvalho, also of S. José along with her parents, Domingos Dias > and Maria > Carvalho, on 27 April 1730 in S. José. > > John Miranda Raposo > > > > Topic: Mello <http://groups.google.com/group/azores/t/96f9838e3e2e3936> > > ShirleyMay <[email protected]> Jan 12 12:46AM -0800 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_digest_top> > > Hi Shirl, > I am also interested in any Mello in the Massachusetts area. Would > you please send me a scan of the microfilm? > > ShirleyMay > > Searching Vila Franca do Campo, and Povoação, São Miguel, Açores > > > > > > [email protected] Jan 12 05:36PM > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_digest_top> > > I know of this MA Mello family: > > Manuel Duarte Mello b. 1872 Sao Miguel Azores, wife Francisca Victoria > Amaral Costa b. Sao Miguel...it both cases, I do not know where in Sao > Miguel. Came to US ca 1890-91. > Ding........maybe, it's time I try and find them on Passportes... > > "E" > > > > Topic: Negrito on > Faial<http://groups.google.com/group/azores/t/7129f3860448a67> > > Cheri Mello <[email protected]> Jan 11 10:34PM -0800 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_digest_top> > > Hi Margaret, > > Maybe I read her email incorrectly. I'll check it out. > > Thanks, > Cheri > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Margaret Vicente < > [email protected] > > -- > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, > Achada > > > > > [email protected] Jan 11 04:02PM -0500 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=qvz4uGnXwI8.pt_BR.&am=!Mi2c2SsaQZO5A3Gi0fgGItaReiDqLpkZJ8MbtEaKlVYNpA#1262621c68474414_digest_top> > > I don't know of anything on Faial regarding Negrito, but that doesn't > mean > it isn't there I'll keep looking. However, I did find reference to > Negrito on Terceira. It's one of the forts erected in the 16th Cenury > to defend > Terceira from a Spanish invasion. > > Laura > > > In a message dated 1/11/2010 12:03:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I received a private email from a friend of a friend asking where was > Negrito on Faial. Since I'm not a Faial researcher, I could only guess > that > it's perhaps some kind of neighborhood. Anyone know where this placed > is > located? > > -- > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<azores%[email protected]>. > Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No > Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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