Hi Elaine I guess at this point there are just not enough people tested to make a match but that is not to say that testing is not helpful and will not provide results. I have had my mothers DNA tested and she is in Haplogroup W. I had traced her maternal line back to a woman who came to Quebec from France in the 1600's. I put the results on the MtDNA website and have met others who subsequently traced their line to the same woman. So testing has provided help and has verified the genealogical work and has introduced me to distant cousins.
Generally speaking on the information you have provided what you need is a match from the same village/area from where your ancestor came from to give you a clue as to what the line is. I think we are all looking for the magic bullet result that will reveal all but the truth is that testing and research must go hand in hand. In Portuguese genealogy surnames do not necessarily mean much in tracing a line as there were so many name changes along the way. I have been watching the results and would like to find a match to my father's maternal line from Sao Miguel. I do have a match from Pi co but I think it is more anthological (no recent common ancestor) and would be surprised to find a common ancestor in the records in the Acores. I hope this helps explain it better. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha -----Original Message----- From: "E" Sharp [mailto:bellema...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 11:38 AM To: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores DNA project matches Rick, This makes me wonder why do the DNA test for ancestors if all your going to find is cousins you already know about. That is the reason I asked now many matches had been made and it seems they are none other than the cousins. My relative did his DNA as part of a surname project and in hopes he would match someone which might give us a hint of his father's line but no luck there at all. Of course, it could mean people he would match have not done a DNA study. So, what do you feel you got out of doing the study? I was going to have my husband do his but I am not sure if the outcome is going to give us anymore than we already know. Elaine On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 3:58 PM, <rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi Elaine, > > > > Haplogroup R1b is the most common Haplogroup in Europe. As such it is found > in every European country. R1b1b2 is also the Haplogroup which I belong. I > had a 37 marker test and if there is a match of all 37 markers it means > there is a 50% chance there is a relation in two generations. A 90% chance > there is a match in 5 generations and a 95% chance in 7 generations. A match > of someone with the same surname (the direct male line father to son) is > more meaningful as is a match from the same village. Both my Grandfathers > one Portuguese and the other French are R1b. I have traced there lines back > 8+ generations and there is no hint of a connection. > > > > Rick > > > > Richard Francis Pimentel > > Epping, New Hampshire, USA > > Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta > Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores for, > Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Elaine Sharp > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 1:29 PM > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores DNA project matches > > > > Hi Cheri, > > > > Thanks for the Azores DNA breakdown. I still have difficulty understanding > these things but that you had 3 that matched and they were cousins means the > system works. Since the 67 marker is a bit more expensive I don’t think too > many people are in this category? > > > > I asked question this because I have a family member, predicted haplogroup > is R1b1b2 of German-Volga descent and so far he has had 9 12-marker matches > and 25 25-marker matches and within both groups most are > English/Irish/Scottish, not German or Russian. Since his gfather was not > named on birth record, I am beginning to assume he was a foreigner passing > by although there were a few other nationalities living in the German-Volga > area of Russia I am told. He was the only child of this union. We have > traced his mother’s father and they left Germany 1766 for Russia under the > invitation of Catherine the Great and this relative’s grandmother and father > left Russia in early 1900’s for the USA. > > > > There is one Cabral in the bunch and it does list 1 Portuguese. > Interesting. > > > > “E” > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when > they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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