Nancy,
 
Well, now that I am at home and looking at my tree, she is my great great
grandmother, not my 3rd.  I should never rely on my memory, I swear...
 
She was born about 1860 but according to past family members, she was born
on Faial. I haven't found any proof of that yet though. 
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Pereira, Azevedo,
Furtado, Rapoza
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
nancy jean baptiste
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:05 PM
To: azores group
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records


Hi Jackie,
 
   That's an interesting story......sad, but interesting.... so 3rd
grandmother.....about what year was she born? I'm just curious because it
seems odd to me that I've never seen these kinds of records before and I've
read so many Sao Jorge records.....the only other one that ever alluded to
such was from 1872 in Rosais that said the child was from the "crime" of
incest. Other than that they are all so similar regarding the births to
single mothers.
 
Regards,
Nancy
 

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:24:56 -0700


I have never actually seen a record like that but it doesn't surprise me
that they would identify if it that way. My 3rd great grandmother according
to family history was never allowed to actually marry my 3rd great
grandfather because she was the result of a rape. Her mother ended up in the
Azores due to a shipwreck and she was raped by one of the sailors.  The
catholic church labeled her (the baby) as "unclean" and would not allow the
marriage. So they just lived together for 60 years and had 9 children. 
 
I've wondered how they would label her birth. 
 
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Pereira, Azevedo,
Furtado, Rapoza
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
nancy jean baptiste
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9.35 AM
To: azores group
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records


Greetings,
 
    I've been reading all of the baptisms for Topo for 1860.......I've seen
2 unusual records that I've never seen before and wonder if anyone else has
seen similar records. One of them says the birth is to a solteria and in
parentheses it says (vulgar assault), the other says the woman was married
but the child was due to adultery. I had often wondered if some of those
"roda" babies were due to assault by pirates but the records never indicated
it so since this one did I guess they do put it on the records. Has anyone
ever seen other records in Sao Jorge such as these?
 
Regards,
Nancy Jean


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