Tony:
I work with a John Vasconcelos that may be about the right age;
however, I think he moved to Portugal as a young child and then
returned to the Bay Area as an adult. I'll ask him the next time I
run into him.
On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:08 AM, "Tony Cardoso" <[email protected]> wrote:
John Vasconcelos:
Are you related to John Vasconcelos that grew up in Sunnyvale, CA in
the early to mid 70’s? I went to school with john and would like to
say hello.
Thanks!
Tony
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of John Vasconcelos
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy/Pimentel
Cindy,
I may have a lead for you. My 4G grandparents, Ursula Pimentel born
Santa Cruz Flores, married to Pedro de Freitas, born Mosteiro,
Flores, married 17 June 1734 in Santa Cruz Flores. Ursula died 08
Aug 1775, Caldeira, Flores. They had a lot of Freitas de Pimentel
descendants (who usually went by "Pimentel"), many of whom I grew
up with in the Fresno California area. One of their descendants is
my 5th cousin Dr. David Pimentel, Professor emeritus of Cornell
University who several years ago ran (and lost) on the "outsider"
ticket for some high office in the Sierra Club. He, I believe was
born in the New Bedford area. Unfortunately, I haven't ever met him.
Regards,
John Vasconcelos
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Cindy D - Searching Sylvia-Pimentel-
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
Although I have not been able to find acutal documentation over there
to prove it, my Pimentel side is from Flores, so pour me a glass and
count me in!!! I know zero about Flores other than my mother has told
me that her grandmother said it has a lot of flowers.
Got a lucky break and found a marriage record in New Bedford....and it
confirmed family lore that my great-grandma Maggie Pimentel (Margarida
Ursela Pimentel) was indeed, from Flores. Also got her parents' names
on that record. Double Score. I thought my great-grandfather was
Sylvia or Silva, but no, marriage record has Da Silva....which
explains why I couldn't find much of anything for the past 3 years.
Doh! Made a giant pot of cacciola and had the family in to
celebrate!
My family tree was written by first generation American Sylvias and a
big mistake was made in hand copying (before copy machines) and listed
Frank Pimentel and Annie Martin as Maggie's parents which did not
agree with that New Bedford marriage record at all so it's been
sitting on the back-burner for at least a year. After digging through
some family papers and carefully reading all the little pencil notes
on the original note paper, turns out, Frank is Maggie's brother, not
father. So now it all makes sense and I can put everyone where they
belong. Sheesh!
Cindy D
Sylvia, Pimentel, and new and improved, Da Silva, De Jesus and a
Martin in-law
On Jun 6, 11:32�pm, John Vasconcelos <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've become envious of the "Ponta Garca Gang" and the "Cabral
Travassos
> Country Club" and their good fortune in finding cousins. �So I her
eby
> establish the "Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society". �We Flores
people are
> not so fortunate as our more easterly "cousins". Flores was
subject to the
> plunderings of Pirates and Privateers which took a toll on our
ancestors and
> their institutions. According to historical accounts, Flores was
attacked by
> Privateers in the mid 1600's who burned every church on the
Island. As a
> result most records before the late 1600's were lost. Even the
records on
> neighboring Corvo go back earlier, to the early 1600's, as I recall.
>
> The earliest documented marriage that I have discovered among my
ancestors
> was that of Manoel Pimentel to Isabel de Freitas, Nov 26, 1692,
Santa Cruz,
> Flores who were my 4G Grandparents (He had been married
previously, in the
> 1680's as I recall). His parents were Domingos Nunes and Marianna
Fraga,
> date and place of birth unknown although it was probably Santa
Cruz, Flores.
> I would venture a guess that Marianna was related to Diogo das
Chagas, whose
> mother was also a Fraga. Her parents were Domingos Fernandez and
Catarina de
> Freitas.
>
> How about it, any cousins out there with these same ancestors?
> John Vasconcelos
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