Hi Emil, I was curious which of Joao Melo's siblings you're descended from. Nice to find a new cousin! Nancy Jean Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:44:40 +0000 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Luzia & Candelaria, Pico Island
Hi again Nancy Jean and Gayle, Yes we are all three Cousins!! I will contact you both to share information. Emilio ( Emil ) Emil Silveira Currently Researching: Names and Places; Avila, Horta, Angustias, Faial Silveira, Horta, Sao Salvador, Faial Leal, Horta, Angustias, Faial Vargas, Horta, Almoxarife, Faial ----- Original Message ----- From: Gayle Machado <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 04:05:50 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Luzia & Candelaria, Pico Island Nancy Jean, No, I don't have the parents for either Mateus or Agueda. I do have an approximate death date for Mateus as 12 Aug 1673. It is based on the baptism record where Agueda is listed as both a godparent and a widow. Gayle On Jul 14, 2012, at 8:04 PM, nancy jean baptiste <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Gayle, Joao Melo is the grandson of Mateus Sousa and Agueda Rodrigues.......son of Monica.....husband of Isabel Dutra the daughter of Amaro and Isabel. My 7th ggrandfather and it appears he's Emil's 6th great grand uncle. Mateus and Agueda are as far back as I have. Do you have anyone behind them? Thanks for "dropping in the middle of the conversation".....that's how we all find our connections, when we see the postings of others. At the time you and I compared I don't think I had my line back to Mateus and Agueda. I see you're from their 1st child Maria and I'm from their last, Monica, with 7 others in between....perhaps others out there are also connected in this family. Nancy Jean To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Luzia & Candelaria, Pico Island From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:20:31 -0400 Emil, I'm a bit hesitant to drop into the middle of a conversation, without fully understanding its source. But, some of these names being mentioned connect to my lines. First, is your Joao Melo is the grandson to Mateus Sousa and Agueda Rodrigues from Candelaria, Pico ? If so, I connect to them through their daughter Maria who married Matheus Vieira Tristao. In case you don't have the original baptism record, I show that Joao's mother Monica Sousa was baptised 28 Sep 1653 with godparents Matheus Furtado of Salvador, Horta, Faial and Phelipa Luis, sister to Padre M. Luis. Second, do you connect to Gaspar Garcia Sarmento and Madalena Rodrigues ? Or, is it just Nancy Jean who does ? Nancy Jean and I compared notes awhile back, if I remember correctly. The question is whether this is now a three-way connection. If you would like to contact me, feel free. My e-mail is: [email protected] Gayle -----Original Message----- From: nancy jean baptiste <[email protected]> To: azores group <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jul 14, 2012 3:21 pm Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Luzia & Candelaria, Pico Island Hi Emil, Sorry, I didn't "think" about what you wrote! Obviously if your great uncle, Joao Melo, married Isabel Dutra, the daughter of Amaro and Isabel, then he WAS my 7th great grandfather. I tend to complicate issues! Nancy Jean > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 13:47:22 -0700 > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Luzia & Candelaria, Pico Island > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > Repost for Emil Silveira: > > Hi Nancy Jean, Marcio and anyone interested, > > I have made notes on some of your entries which > pertain to my family file. If you would like to ask me anything more > please > contact me. > > Emil > > Marcio, My paternal grandparents were from > Candelaria, Pico. The NEPS site has them back to the 8th generation. I > have a > Gasper Garcia Sarmento married to Madalena Rodrigues...no dates of > birth or > marriage given but, birth of first child 26 May, 1670 and giving me a > grandfather, Francisco Garcia Sarmento born Aug. 4, 1683. Also have > Mateus > Sousa and Agueda Rodrigues giving birth to 1st child in 1638. Mateus > Luis and > Leonor Rodrigues having 1st child Nov.15, 1657. > > Francisco Ferreira born > abt 1660 and Maria Rodrigues born abt 1660 > having a child Ines in 1685. This appears to be my 7th > great-grandparents born Nossa Senhora das Candeias, Candelaria, Pico, > Azores > > Amaro Pereira and Isabel Dutra with 1st child, > Pascoa born March 30, 1689. This is the parents of the > wife ( Isabel Dutra) of my 6th great grand uncle Joao Melo of > Candelaria, Pico, Azores. > > Finally, I have a multi greatgrandmother, Monica > Sousa born Sept. 28 1653. She is my 7th > great-grandmother and her husband Agostinho Barcelos is my 7th > great-grandfather. These are all in Candelaria according to > NEPS.....have not verified using CCA records but assume that's where > NEPS > acquired the info. Nancy Jean > > > Emil Silveira > > Currently Researching: > > Names and Places; > Avila, Horta, Angustias, Faial > Silveira, Horta, Sao Salvador, Faial > Leal, Horta, Angustias, Faial > Vargas, Horta, Almoxarife, Faial > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. Follow the confirmation directions when > they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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