Dear Listers,
 
After searching for years for Patsy's Grand Father's birth/baptism record  
we hired João Ventura.  Those of you who attended the conference in SLC,  UT 
or San Jose, CA would have met him.
 
 João  researched all 10 of the siblings.  As it turns out,  the first 3 
were referenced as Vieira only.  It wasn't until #4, my Grand  Father, that 
the name Anselmo was added, making the last name Vieira  Anselmo.
 
João explained to us that many times when there are multiple names of  
people in a village that one of the families will add a "given name" from one 
of 
 their ancestors that will distinguish their family from the other.  In our 
 case they added the "given name" of Anselmo, which João said was a very  
strong name.
 
João Ventura is wonderful, without this info we would still be  looking.
 
AVA

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