Jane,

If you can get a birthdate from the cemetery, then maybe I can locate his
baptism record in Flores. He would be recorded there as Antonio Lourenco,
and I would guess the de Fraga comes from the mother's family. The parents
may be Manuel Lourenco and Maria  ( de Conceicao, de Jesus, de Gloria, etc)
with de Fraga parents.

These name combinations point toward the north of the island.

Eric Edgar


On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:00 AM, jane Kelly <[email protected]>wrote:

> Thank you - Anthony married Agnes Eliza McGirty in Sydney NSW in 1874 aged
> 22 years. The other information I have comes from his naturalisation
> certificate on 9 August 1888.
> he died 4 April 1905 in Balmain , Sydney  aged 54 years, I have the
> marriage certificate 16.2.1874 his parents are listed as Manuel Lorenzo (
> Sailor) and Mary -  rights of roman catholic church. Also have his death
> certificate but have not been able to find anything about his parents or
> life before Australia
>
> Only references to birth that I have are:
> - his marriage certificate -16.2.1874  lists him as a sailor aged 23 years
> - his naturalisation certificate - 9 august 1888 - lists him arriving in
> Australia in 1861, and advising he is 34 years old, says he is a native of
> Flores, West Island, Azores
> - his first son was named Antoni George on his birth certificate (
> 3.11.1877 in Balmain Sydney) and the father is named as Antoni George
> Larence - Mariner , aged 27 from Portugal
>
> I do not have a birth date yet - but will shortly visit his grave in
> Rookwood cemetery and that might help with a date of birth
>
>
> Jane,
>>
>> I've worked with 2 other people who had ancestors from Flores, Azores who
>> immigrated to Australia or New Zealand. I'm familiar with the databases
>> available for Australian passenger and shipping lists.
>> I've checked a number of databases, but none showed a "Triton" arrival
>> for 1861. That particular year has a gap in the records of ships arriving
>> at New South Wales.
>>
>> The son's name with the de Frayer may give a clue, likely originally
>> being: de Fraga.   Who did Anthony Lorenzo marry ?
>>
>> Can you give some more information; his birthdate, marriage information ?
>>  With birth information he may be found in the parish baptism records of
>> Flores at the CCA - azores government archives site
>>
>>
>> Eric Edgar
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:28 PM, jane Kelly <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> I am researching my family history and want to identify Antony or
>>> Anthony Lorenzo who arrived in Australia on "Triton" in 1861 at age of 9
>>> years - this information is from his naturalisation papers in Australia and
>>> he list his parents as and Manuel and Maria and his birth place as Flores,
>>> West Island, Azores , Azores on these papers. He would have been born about
>>> 1854. I am hoping someone else may also be related and give me some further
>>> information. He married and had children in Australia with his son Francis
>>> Maxwell De Frayer Lorenzo being my great great grandfather. regards Jane
>>> Kelly.
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