Doug, My family traces back to Ribeiras also. Silveira, Soares, Cardoso, Pereira, Melo, Fiahlo, Goulart. I have them back to the early 1700s. Private mail me to collaborate.
Eric Edgar On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:53 PM, <p...@dholmes.com> wrote: > Yea, Rosemarie. > > What gets me is understanding the thought process of why a person's birth > is listed by NEPS but without any parents when both parents are stated. > They have made the terrible decision to not name the parents when the > father is incognito. I wonder why. > > Sometimes they get too confused, it seems, and just give up and don't list > the parents when they are clearly written in the marriage record. > > I have been working a lot on the Ribeiras, Pico records where there is > that very large gap in the marriages of the 1700s. This gap has led to so > many mistakes by NEPS. > > And where is the logic when the mother is having children in her 60s or > older? There are some instances where couples with similar names are not > distinguished and so they lump all the kids into one family, sometime > resulting in siblings just a month or so apart. Pretty good trick, I think. > > One needs to use a large amount of caution especially when linking the > families they have linked together. > And when you see a person with many names that don't agree with the record > you are verifying, use extreme caution or you'll end up with garbage for a > family tree. > > I have found many new cousins who are descendants of my remote ancestors > in Ribeiras, so this is very satisfying to me. My goal is to bridge the gap > for all families there and I have been very successful so far. > > If anyone is stuck with their Ribeiras, Pico ancestors and want to learn > their older ancestors beyond the gap in the 1700s, feel free to contact me > for professional help. For that matter, anywhere on Pico or Terceira is > where I specialize. > > And for general interest, you can find many interesting things of value to > the researcher on my website below. > > And I wonder how many people with Faial ancestors realize it's practically > a guarantee they also have many Pico ancestors as you trace them back in > time. In fact, I would be surprised if there is even one person who can > tell me their Faial ancestor born in the 1800s has no links back to Pico. > > Good luck. > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Sacramento, California > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > 916-550-1618 > www.dholmes.com > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Maria > From: "rcapodc" <rcap...@redshift.com> > Date: Thu, February 13, 2014 11:53 pm > To: <azores@googlegroups.com> > > Who knows Diane. You just have to keep verifying things from the > original documents. There are many errors in the NEPS database but at least > it's a place to start your search. > > Good luck! > > Rosemarie > > *From:* Diane Geoge <digeorg...@hotmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:46 PM > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Maria > > Thanks. I think you are right. It's funny that it appears that way in > two databases--must have been the same person analyzing it. > > I have more mysteries with this line, but I will keep going to see if I > can solve them. > > Diane > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com > [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com<azores@googlegroups.com>] > *On Behalf Of *rcapodc > *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:56 PM > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Maria > > Diane, > > It's Manuel Ferreira and sua mulher (his wife) Maria Theresa! Whoever > extracted the info took the sua as a surname! > > Rosemarie > > *From:* Diane Geoge <digeorg...@hotmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2014 4:27 PM > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Maria > > Hi, > > I located this record on CCA, > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1748-1775/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1748-1775_item1/P292.html. > The record I am interested in is on the upper right side. I believe it is > for Maria, daughter of Manuel ? and Maria Teresa. The name that is causing > difficulty is that of the father. In the NEPS database for Madalena and for > Sao Mateus/Sao Caetano, he is listed as Manuel Ferreira Surra, but the last > name looks more like an abbreviated version of Silva or Silveira to me. The > middle name is also abbreviated and I am not sure if the abbreviation is > for Ferreira or Faria. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Diane George > -- > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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