RE: [AZORES-Genealogy]. New Study--Percentage of Jewish ancestry among Iberian population

Mon, 24 Feb 2014 20:03:22 -0800

Hi Will,

I'm sorry, but it must have been many years ago and I don't remember our discussion.
I see you have Pico ancestors, and that could be a link, but I don't have any known ancestors from Arco da Calheta. I do have close relatives who were born in Arco de Sao Jorge, Madeira. And I found a surprising link to Pico from their ancestors there. Any chance your wife has Abreu Cardoso ancestors from there? Cardoso goes back to Pico.

No, I have never heard the name Pomar or Pumat. I am not aware of that name anywhere, let alone on Pico.

I hope you didn't use my fictitious example below as a basis for my connection to your wife, but would be very interested in just how you think there could be one.

Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618
www.dholmes.com


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Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy]. New Study--Percentage of Jewish
ancestry among Iberian population
From: "Will Clinton" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, February 24, 2014 5:28 pm
To: <[email protected]>

Doug,
 
We have talked before now I think you and my wife are distant cousins connected thru da Silva do Pumat born 1782 in Arco da Calheta, Madeira.  He had two sons, my wife's line is thru Antonio da Silva do Pomar born 1828.  Do you show this infomation to be correct?  Thanks--I hope you had a great time skiing in Tahoe a few weeks ago.
 
WILL CLINTON
Researching Madeira and Pico
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Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 8:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy]. New Study--Percentage of Jewish ancestry among Iberian population
 
I have heard about the 20% Jewish population estimation, so it's quite interesting to see that DNA studies are showing something similar.
 
But what was most interesting to me is about the earlier forced conversions, not just to Catholic, but also to Muslim during the Moorish Spain centuries.
 
In turn, that means we might not really be seeing settlers of the Azores were recently converted Jews. They might have been descendants from 300 years before that time.
 
To spell it out more clearly, let's say a Jew in the Algarve in Southern Portugal was forced to be a Muslim. Then later his great-grandson is forced to be a Catholic. More Catholic descendants for 4 or 5 generations and then one of them takes a chance on settling on the far away islands to start fresh and make a better life. By 1525, his son is well established as a farmer and another son as a fisherman, who both supply ships as they return from the New World back to Spain. They make their fortune, become respected citizens in Ponta Delgada, move over to Angra in the middle 1500s, using the names Joao and Antonio Goncalves.
 
We find them as our ancestors, but don't know their origins, except that they represent the most remote ancestor on our direct paternal line and we can identify them as having Jewish DNA, or maybe Moorish.
 
What a fascinating story that would be if it could be discovered like that.
 
Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618
 

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