Hello, I've spent some time studying Achada and Nordestinho, Nordeste records and I've seen both male and female interchange surnames. example, Jose de Faria, I found his marriage record and first child born, using the name Jose Correa Pimentel. His grandma was a Pimentel and his great grandma was a Correa. I've also seen inter-change of names with Silva-Brandoa (Nordestinho), Simas-Resendes (Achada), and Pimentel-Resendes (Achada). In most of these cases, they were simply using either the father or mothers surname. In the case of Jose de Faria, it took a little extra work and going back in the family tree to figure it out.
As for the pais incognito, a DNA test could help elucidate your husband's pedigree. As for the mother of Jose (the son), I can't make it out. I tried looking for Joze de Almeida and ? da Conceicao's marriage record but I couldn't find it. I looked in Sao Sebastiao and Agua Retorta Here is Jose's baptism (father), left hand side; take a look at his maternal grandparents surnames. I think it agrees with your original assumptions and findings regarding Jose and Luis de Almeida. Good work! http://goo.gl/NmK2X0 brother Francisco de Almeida's baptism http://goo.gl/tVR9n2 brother Luis's baptism http://goo.gl/hnn8jc On Monday, March 17, 2014 8:40:54 PM UTC-7, Maria wrote: > > > Upper left hand page- for JOZE > > I'm was searching for children born to Luiz D'Almeida from the parish in > Agua Retorta in Sao Miguel, (the same exact parish as is mentioned in > this record) and his wife Luiza de Jesus. > > However, I came across this record where the names of the grandparents > are so similar, that I wondered if Luiz D'Almeida is a brother to Jose > D'Almeida. the name of the parents for both Luiz and Jose are both Jose > D'Almeida and both men's mother is Miguelina. However, For Luiz the mother > is Miguelina De Torres and for this Jose the mother is Miguelina de Resende > (?) if I read it correctly. Miguelina is not a common name so I wonder > if it IS the same person, it's,possible she used both names: De Torres and > De Resende. Any thoughts? > > Can anyone help me out with the name of the mother of the baby in this > record, please? The best I could make out was Jesnivea de Concinco(?). I > know that doesn't make sense) > > There's several coincidences: both men came from the same parish; both men > have a father with the same name and a mother with the same first name > which is an uncommon name and both men had wives with > Pais incognitos. Ugh! (So I came across my first encounter with Pais > incognito and I don't know if that's going to mean I hit a dead end.). It's > a shame because it's my husband's great grandmother > > Here's the record. I appreciate any help. Thank you > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1857-1860/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1857-1860_item1/P67.html > > > Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
