When a priest would write "' mais ou menos "' in a death certificate was to 
me a very NOT caring kind of priest or was he too busy to ask a family 
member as to when the person was born and then correctly make the correct 
age notation? One thing for sure they did not dream that hundred years 
later they would be scrutinized for these mistakes by people looking for 
their ancestors.

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 6:25:14 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I just sent you the first one i found in the book order. I have read some 
> more josé s being raised by the paid couples… it is very hard to determine 
> who is who… One could be suspicious about the “father”… but I do not think. 
> The “father” is the same at other “adoptions”. He was the bell man of the 
> church (sineiro)… I looked at the other josé s and the bell man was always 
> the godfather…
>
> As to to age being wrong it was a very common thing those days. That is 
> why you can read in the “assentos” the sentence “pouco mais ou menos” (more 
> or less). It means a person had 50 years more or less (one more one less 
> who cares at those days?!
>
>  
>
> Hope it helps. 
>
>  
>
> *De:* [email protected] <javascript:> [mailto:
> [email protected] <javascript:>] *Em nome de *Herb
> *Enviada:* terça-feira, 1 de Abril de 2014 00:12
> *Para:* [email protected] <javascript:>
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande Records
>
>  
>
> Hello 
>
>  
>
> It very well could be him. I just took another look at his death 
> certificate  and it says  he died on 11 Dec 1952 at age 80.  If he was born 
> in Jan 1871  and died in Dec 1952 he would have been 81 not 80 right? What 
> do you make of this information Eliseu? Interesting that the Godfather was 
> named Sousa and the adoptive father was named Silva but the age doesn't 
> quite match up does it?
>
>  
>
> Herb
>
> On Monday, March 31, 2014 4:05:39 PM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:
>
> HI,
>
> There is a José exposto that “fits” your José.
>
>  
>
> In the book of 1871, registry nº 24, folium 10, left, we can read:
>
>  
>
> Baptized at 8 February 1871, Matriz, Ribeira Grande. It says he was born 
> the day before. He was exposto number 1825 in the Roda da Câmara, Rua do 
> Val, Freguesia da Conceição.
>
>  
>
> He was given to be cared to Maria de Jesus married to Manuel da Silva, 
> both living at Rua Nova, Freguesia da Conceição.
>
>  
>
> Godfather was Jacinto de Sousa Galante, married man.
>
> God mother was Ana Joaquina, unmarried woman, she was enlisted to take 
> care of the expostos (The municipality paid a certain amount to those women 
> to raise the expostos given to them).
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *De:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *Em nome 
> de *Herb
> *Enviada:* segunda-feira, 31 de Março de 2014 19:06
> *Para:* [email protected]
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande Records
>
>  
>
> Hi Eliseu
>
>  
>
> I  am looking for Jose Sousa Silva who married Cecilia da Conceicao 
> Pacheco on Feb 1892.   In fact I have their  marriage record, (married in 
> Sao Jose PD) what I am looking for is his baptism  He was an "exposto da 
> roda" from NS da Estrela RG,  and I was hoping to see who the Godparents 
> were or to possibly glean some little tid bit of information that may 
> be helpful to my search.  He died in 1952 at age 80, in Sao Jose, but he 
> would have been baptized at NS da Estrela on or about 1871-1872. 
>
>  
>
> thanks
>
>  
>
> Herb
>
> On Monday, March 31, 2014 12:20:44 PM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:
>
> Hi! 
> Are you looking for José de Sousa Silva married to Jorgina? Son of 
> Maximino and Guilhermina from Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande? 
>
>
> Eliseu Pacheco da Silva 
> Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo 
> ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) 
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