Thank you Doug, This just confirms what I have believed for over 50 years. Margie In a message dated 5/8/2014 4:30:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Great points, Joao. Yea, I overlooked the pirates. So let's expand on that idea. A women has a child and either keeps it and he/she has a pai incognito, or abandons the baby and he/she is an exposto/a. I have one exposta ancestor from around the late 1700s. She didn't marry into some wealthy family which might lead us to assume her real parents were well to do and just couldn't find room in their will for this baby. So I'm looking at my tree and her name is Joana, born maybe about 1680, maybe in Se, Angra or maybe in Sao Bento next door. No way we can figure out her ancestry. Was it a pirate? The 1% African and 1% Asian DNA I mentioned could certainly be from her father. We don't know what she looked like, so that's going to be a mystery forever. She fits into the right time frame to possibly account for this 1% math calculation. I know from experience that a huge percentage of people with Azores ancestors have way more than just one such mysterious ancestor. So maybe your idea applies to a lot of people. As for proving my math, I don't think there is much room for error. We know we get approximately 50% DNA from each parent and so 50% of each parents' DNA is dropped. It depends on the ages for each generation. It just works out that for my father we reach the 7th generation with people born about 1675, mais ou menos, as the priest so fondly wrote. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico & Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 _www.dholmes.com_ (http://www.dholmes.com/) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MyOrigins surprise findings from Family Finder DNA testing From: João_Ventura <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > Date: Thu, May 08, 2014 4:07 pm To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Cc: helen kerner <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > Hi Doug, Theoretically speaking, your math seems right. However you'd need to prove this hypothesis and run it through several sets of DNA with an extensive ancestor to see if it holds up. The problem is that while I believe that 99% of the cases of baptism records correctly identify the real mother, I'm not that sure about the 'real' biological father. I'm pretty sure it won't be 100%. It's still high, probably 95%. Which brings me to the other fact you didn't raise when discussing the possible african ancestry. You do know that the Azores island were raided by North African pirates frequently. I'm assuming these pirates didn't just take all the men they could find for ransom or slavery. They probably raped some of the women. I'm pretty sure that must have resulted in some descendents being born in the Azores. João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
