Doug I am unable to identify anyone from the Silveira line in Graciosa that traces to the Alentejo region I don't have access to the source document that is quoted as containing the information. The people that I have read make this claim state they extracted the information from the Nobililario da Ilha Terceira written by Eduardo de Campos de Castro de Azevedo Soares edited by Livraria Fernando Machado in 1944.
Antonio On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:38:32 PM UTC-7, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: > > Antonio and Tomas, > > I don't think I heard about that non-Flemish Silveira line from Graciosa. > Can you identify anyone from that line? > > I think I remember a nobleman appearing in the 1700s in Terceira and used > Sapo to see who his ancestors are. Going by memory, I think I remember he > had Silveira from the continent, but this person didn't use Silveira in the > Azores - just happened to be surnames in his tree. > > My father's Y-DNA is showing more British Isles matches than anything else > - at least that's what I see when fumbling my way through the various SNPs > in the Y tools they have at FTDNA. > > So I think this Celt theory and accompanying facts seems to hold water. Of > course, no telling where we get specific features, but blue eyes are common > in the Azores. In my father's ancestry we have blondes, red heads, very > tall people, and that comes from both Pico and Terceira sides. But we also > have plenty of the more common features of the Portuguese. > > I might not remember correctly now, but my father's late first cousin, Dr. > Jose Leal Armas (Armas from Flores and Leal from Pico) said his mother was > blonde and was a teacher in Sao Mateus da Calheta (Terceira). She would be > my father's aunt. I think he said that when she taught school in Sao > Mateus, there were a whole lot of children with blonde hair - maybe even > most but that's where I'm not sure now, since he told me this about 20 > years ago. > > So what I found interesting from Tomas is that the Portuguese of Northern > Portugal might not all be influenced by the Visigoths, but also the Celts > and I don't recall hearing that part before. The Germanic Visigoths were > surely responsible for the Northern European features of many pioneer > families of the Azores. But now we can add the Celts to that. > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > ============================================= > Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores > Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants. > Write me here for more info: [email protected] <javascript:> > ============================================= > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British > Isles and Ireland > From: A Faria <[email protected] <javascript:>> > Date: Tue, August 05, 2014 10:10 pm > To: [email protected] <javascript:> > > Hi Tomas > > My understanding regarding the Silveira surname in the Azores is that all > the lines except one on the island of Graciosa are believed to have > originated from the Flemish. The one line from Graciosa is believed to have > originated in the Alentejo region of mainland Portugal and traces from Old > Portuguese Nobility. > > Antonio > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.

