Margaret -
 
Here is the link for the marriage record of Joze (Jozeph) and Isabel do 
Rosario. (top right page)
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1722-1758/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1722-1758_item1/P96.html
 
When I first posted it several members replied - one whom said the brides 
mothers name looked like "Viceza" (I don't have the diacritic over the e; 
which would make the full name Vicenza).
 
I don't believe that's correct.  I think the name is Viera.
 
Could you take a look and verify that if possible? (ninth line from the 
bottom of the record..
 
Thanks!
 
Lee
 

On Monday, August 11, 2014 1:03:08 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote:

> Hi Lee,
>
> That gap would make me suspicious.  Are you sure this is she?  The 
> Mother's name is different, Maria Vieira.  The Parish is Santa Barbara and 
> you wrote she was from S. Joao Batista which is a different freguesia.
>
>  Note:  she was the daughter of Joam d'Azevedo and Maria Vencenza(?) 
> (Isabel was from parish of Sao Joao Baptista, Pico)
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Lee <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Margaret.
>>  
>> I  went to the birth records for Ribieras, Pico and finally found her 
>> record; she was born in 1722 which made her 46 at the time of her death - 
>> certainly a far cry from 60!  
>>  
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1697-1731/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1697-1731_item1/P205.html
>>  
>> Right side, top.
>>  
>> Again, thank you for your help.
>>  
>>
>> On Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:55:22 AM UTC-4, Mara wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lee,
>>>
>>> Death date reads Sep. 2nd 1768.  Age 60 years old "more or less".
>>>
>>> Notice he writes more or less because the age entered is not verified 
>>> and you will need to look up her birth record within the timeframe above as 
>>> a start and work it backwards.  I've found gaps of 10 years in some of my 
>>> records.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Below is the link for the obitos of Isabel do Rozario (top, left page)
>>>>   
>>>> I know she was married to Joze Sylveira and died September 2nd??, 1768.
>>>>  
>>>> The main question that I have is her age at death - I see Secenta (60) 
>>>> which I have a problem with - she and Joze  were married in 1748 and from 
>>>> 1749 to 1763 had 6 children (known of so far, that is).
>>>>  
>>>> I know this as been discussed before; but would she really have had a 
>>>> child as late as age 65?  (I DON'T THINK SO...)  Either the age is 
>>>> incorrect or she really, really looked much older than her true age at 
>>>> death.
>>>>  
>>>> According to their marriage which occurred in Horta on August 5, 1748, 
>>>> she was the daughter of Joam d'Azevedo and Maria Vencenza(?) (Isabel was 
>>>> from parish of Sao Joao Baptista, Pico)  and Joze was the son of Pai 
>>>> Incognito and Barbara Sylveira (slave of Captain Gregorio Perreira of Sao 
>>>> Matteus, Pico).
>>>>  
>>>> Any formation/help would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>  
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-
>>>> HT-MATRIZ-O-1766-1794/FAL-HT-MATRIZ-O-1766-1794_item1/P21.html
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Than you!
>>>>  
>>>> Lee Estep
>>>> Oak Hill WV
>>>>
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