Hi Isabella (again),
I just went to your site. It's beautiful. Much different than when I was
there last.
Very good work. Well worth a look from all google groupers.
Tish

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Tish M <[email protected]> wrote:

> Isabella,
> Thank you so much for your response. I know you mentioned these sites
> before, but at that time I had no leads. I now how a Isabella folder!
> Thanks again,
> Tish
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:59 AM, Isabella Baltar <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Good morning Tish and Carolyn,
>>
>> The ship manifests from Brazil that you find on Family Search database
>> are *only* from *Bahia (1855 – 1964) and São Paulo (1960 – 1982).*
>> These records are only images, no indexing until the moment. So if you fit
>> those dates, for those two places, you need to open one by one and read
>> them to find your ancestor.
>>
>> The ship manifests from Rio de Janeiro are digitized but they are not on
>> Family Search database. You will have to search on the National Archives
>> from Brazil to find the one you are looking for.
>>
>> Links for those databases are on my blog, under *Researching in Brazil*,
>> I cut and pasted below:
>>
>> *http://myportuguesegen.blogspot.com/p/researching-in-brazil_4.html
>> <http://myportuguesegen.blogspot.com/p/researching-in-brazil_4.html>*
>>
>> The first link you will find when you open the link above is the one for
>> the Family Search database, in Brazil. You will need to scroll this page,
>> at Family Search, in order to find the appropriate link to what you are
>> looking for. There are several different links for different states.
>>
>> Going back to *My Portuguese Gen *link, above, I added, on this same
>> link/page, web addresses to:
>>
>> *Rio de Janeiro state*, including a List of steamers
>> and passengers manifests that arrived in* Rio de Janeiro Port between
>> 1805 – 1921. *This is a partial database, constantly updated by the
>> Brazilian National Archives, they are not indexed, they are images in a pdf
>> format. You need to have at least a timeframe to research because this is a
>> huge database with thousands of names.
>>
>> and to
>>
>> *São Paulo State* where I include links to the museum of immigration
>> database, with ships lists, hospedarias and photos.
>>
>> I try to simplify the search as much as possible separating them by state
>> and I display specific links for what you can research on those databases.
>>
>> If you have any other questions related, please let me know. I may take a
>> few days to answer, but I will answer, just too busy at work.
>>
>> Isabella Baltar
>>
>> myportuguesegen.blogspot.com
>>
>> On Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:24:24 PM UTC-5, sfig wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi group,
>>> I must have gotten in the middle of this posting. Can someone post the
>>> link to the manifests?
>>> Tish
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Carolyn M <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Roberto,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for that information.  It would be very helpful to me if I
>>>> could find out the name of the ship that Vitorino and his family took to
>>>> Brazil in October 1911.  I would think there would be a database
>>>> somewhere of ships and their routes with dates included.
>>>>
>>>>  But could I search on these data bases that you suggested by a
>>>> specific date, since I know that already?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Carolyn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, November 2, 2014 11:53:34 AM UTC-5, Roberto Machado Velho
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to add some information on the answer of Isabella Baltar.
>>>>>
>>>>> The archives in Brazil are still being indexed.  But I tried some
>>>>> times read the list by myself on a specific boat and use the search
>>>>> function based on names.  Archives newer than 1896 or around looked to be
>>>>> indexed.  They are indexing it backwards. But given lot of names were
>>>>> written in the wrong form on arrival, the name in the index might not be
>>>>> the name you are looking for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Extra information.  You must search the databases separately on port,
>>>>> Rio de Janeiro, Santos (state of Sao Paulo), Recife, Salvador (Bahia) - I
>>>>> believe these were the main ports to arrive.
>>>>> By the year you are referring to, there were still portugueses earning
>>>>> lands on south of Brazil (today Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul).
>>>>> Independent of them moving to the south of Brazil, it was mandatory to 
>>>>> stop
>>>>> in the ports (Rio or Santos) and register and then move to the South (I
>>>>> don' t know if this is your case).
>>>>>
>>>>> If you imagine your family moved to the south of Brazil, let me know.
>>>>> I have been in Porto Alegre some months ago and I could get the registers
>>>>> of the portuguese families that got land there from 1876 on (mainly
>>>>> Azoreans).  None of such archives are in digital form and they are getting
>>>>> destroyed in bad storage conditions.  I am still trying to organize what I
>>>>> could get.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>>
>>>>> Roberto Velho.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:32:37 PM UTC+3, Carolyn M wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to know if anyone knows of any online records of ships
>>>>>> manifests leaving Porto, Portugal to Brazil?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My great-uncle left Porto bound for Brazil on or around October 1911,
>>>>>> but I don't know the name of the ship.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also posted this to the Portuguese Genealogy Board, but I'm not
>>>>>> sure it ever got through.  This is my first post, and I want to thank you
>>>>>> all for being here!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any information regarding the manifest would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carolyn
>>>>>>
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