No need to apologize, Hermano; all help is appreciated. JMR
On Monday, November 10, 2014 7:16 PM, Hermano C. Pires <[email protected]> wrote: Decio and John Sorry for butting in but I just happen to have three Manuel da Costa Cabral in my file and maybe one of them is the one in question (No. 1 seems to want to fit). 1. Manuel da Costa Cabral son of Manuel Romeiro Velho and N. da Costa (b abt 1610 d. 3 April 1659) m. Francisca Cardoso, daughter of Gaspar Vaz Guedes and Francusca Cardoso (in Brasil) 2. Manuel da Costa Cabral, son of No. 1, m. Ana Ribeiro de Alvarenga , daughter of Francisco Bicudo de Brito and Tomasia Ribeiro de Alvarenga (in Brasil) 3. Manuel da Costa Cabral, son of Amaro da Costa and Maria Cabral m. 17 September 1726, N. S. da Estrela Ribeira Grande, Maria do Rego Bladaia daughter of Sebastiao do Rego Baldaia and Maria Francisca Lopes (found on page 395 of Vl I, Genealogias de S. Miguel e de Santa Maria of Rodrigo Rodrigues). to my knowledge this couple had at least three children: Maria, Antonio and Manuel. I don't have much more than is above. Hope that helps. Hermano ________________________________ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:32:59 -0800 From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Romeiro Velho To: [email protected] This is all I could find; I hope it helps. John Miranda Raposo 19) António Marcondes do Amaral, Capitão (§ 9.º N.º 8) Na obra “Genealogia Paulistana”, de Luís Gonzaga da Silva Leme, Vol.º VII, pág. 360, se diz que o “Capitão António Marcondes (sic) do Amaral, natural da Ilha de S. Miguel, Açores, filho de Dionísio Marcondes, natural de Veneza, que passou a morar na dita Ilha de S. Miguel, e de Maria Vieira, da dita Ilha, casou em 1741 em Pindamonhangaba com Maria Madalena, da família dos Costas Cabrais, de que foi tronco Manuel da Costa Cabral, também natural da Ilha de S. Miguel, tio de Gaspar da Costa Columbreiro, a quem foi passado Brazão de Armas em 1709, registado em 1762 na Câmara de S. Paulo”. Diz a mesma obra, locasou Citestamento, que o capitão António Marcondes do Amaral, comandando a sumaca “S. Boaventura”, em viagem do Rio de Janeiro para o Sul, naufragou a 7.3.1738, dando à costa nas praias do Bujuru, doze léguas a Norte da barra do Rio Grande do Sul; daqui veio por terra a S. Paulo e casou-se em Pindamonhangaba, como fica dito. Teve da primeira mulher sete filhos, que constam do seu inventário feito m 1786, existente no Cartório dos Órfãos daquela cidade. Todos os seus numerosos descendentes usam o apelido Marcondes, e não Marcone, que é como está escrito o nome do pai Dionísio Marcone no registo paroquial da Achadinha Contudo, no Livro da Alfândega de Ponta Delgada de 1727 a 1812, a folhas 65, está uma sentença de 9.1.1732 a favor de Nicolau Maria Caneva contra Dionísio Marcondes (sic). On Monday, November 10, 2014 9:30 AM, 'Decio Medeiros' via Azores Genealogy <[email protected]> wrote: Hi John, Thanks for you help. Would you please check the index o Rodrigo Rodrigues' books to see if there is any Manuel da Costa Cabral. Best regards, Decio Medeiros Em 09/11/2014, às 20:01, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <[email protected]> escreveu: Dear Mr. Medeiros: > > >The source is Rodrigo Rodrigues: > >CAPÍTULO 33.º: DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE FERNÃO VELHO: § 8.º N.º6. > > >No other spouse is mentioned, only the one wife and one child. I hope this >helps. Let me know if I can be of any further assistance. > > >John Miranda Raposo > > > > > > >On Sunday, November 9, 2014 1:04 PM, Decio Medeiros via Gmail ><[email protected]> wrote: > > > >Hi John Miranda Raposo, > >Search the internet I found this message: > >https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg05202.html > >In this old message, dated 14 jan 2010, you mentioned: > >* Manuel Romeiro Velho, capt., married to Maria Velho de Melo. > >Would you please check your source (I think is Rodrigo Rodrigues) to see if >there is a second marriage for this Manuel Romeiro Velho. > >If positive, please inform the name of his second wife and their children. > >Best regards, > >Decio Medeiros >Sao Paulo, Brasil > >P.S.: My interest is to discover the ancestors of Manoel da Costa Cabral, >which may be (or not) a son of this Manuel Romeiro Velho. > >-- >For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) >mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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