Anthony, You are correct about the fact that the Jews married other groups. That ocurred early on in Europe Hebrew men married heavily with Italian women. I have seen the Gedmatch results of several of my Jewish matches using several different calculators and they don't alway match most closely with Ashenazi, sometimes they get results like 50% Ashenazi 50% Sicilian or Greek. Ashkenazi Jews are problably the most studied group and various studies indicate that about 30-50% of their Genome is European and most often clusters with Italian. But all the Jewish groups married some from outside of their community. On Monday, December 29, 2014 7:36:15 AM UTC-8, Anthony Soares wrote:
> > > Yes I have some cousins who when I tried to get them to do DNA asked >> why? They said like you they have had suspicions for years,but >> unfortunately declined to do the DNA. I was hoping they would as they are >> the only set who have all four Grandparents from the Açores. I have >> recently confirmed Ashkenazi on my maternal (non Portuguese) side. With >> some prodding Mom fessed up to the family secret and told us,of course we >> had already learned thru our Aunt that it was our G Grand Mother who had >> stopped actively practicing the jewish Faith in that line. I have not >> worked my Maternal line at all as have been busy with Dad's,but we do have >> a pretty good start from a tree my aunt did while in college,this is where >> we learned of the Ashkenazi line. >> >> >> >> I agree with you on the calculators regarding diversity in the >> Portuguese people as well DNA that MyOrigins is picking up being possibly >> thousands of years old. That is what I was trying to point out in my post >> about the Jewish Diaspora. As these Jews Migrated through the Northern >> Mediterranean on their way to the Iberian Peninsula,They likely picked up >> some DNA through intermarriage. That would explain Italy,Greece ETC. The >> same with the Jews who migrated along the Northern coast of Africa,When the >> Muslim Moors from North Africa Conquered Southern Iberia, North African >> Jews came with them along with DNA that had picked up there. That would >> explain the Libyan Jew and Moroccan Jew and North African that shows up. >> Now the Jews who went east to Mesopotamia/Iraq/South West Asia would only >> match to the Jewish DNA, but that would still explain a distant connection. >> As for the Ashkenazi there are two possible routes to connect :1 the >> connection prior the split in Italy when the group who would become >> Sheparim Migrated west to Iberia and the group who would become Askenazi >> and (also inbred due to their small numbers) moved into eastern Europe and >> the Baltic States. This would explain Serbian,Bosnian,Romanian ETC. This >> group would bounce back and force between Eastern Europe and Western Europe >> due to persecution. The Ashkenazi were at times in France, Belgium and the >> Netherlands. Flanders which borders France,Netherlands and makes up the >> Northwest of Belgium is where the Flemings come from. :2 here is the second >> connection to the Askenazi for the Azores, And it would explain some of the >> European Countries and Baltic States that show up. >> > Does any of this prove beyond a doubt that one is Shepardim? I doubt > it,but it may give clues. > > Regards > Tony > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
