Thanks for the information on the degrees of dispensation. The practice of marrying one's relative to keep the land and money in the family wasn't uncommon in many cultures which I have discovered in my reading of history which is a subject of interest to me.
This is a speculation but does anyone have any historical information in regards to this practice being done in the Azores because of a lack of males available to marry ? I can't recall now were I read this info but I recall reading somewhere that there was a time mainland Portugal would send ships go to the Azores Islands to forcibly recruit males 12 and above to send them to the Portuguese colonies. Thus there would be a depletion of non related males for women to marry. British ships that came into Azores harbors would take these males out of the Azores to help them avoid being forcibly enlisted by the Portuguese Government. Don't take this info as fact because I don't recall the source were I read this info about enforced enlistment. Sent from my iPad On Sep 16, 2015, at 4:48 AM, MaryAnn Santos <[email protected]> wrote: > > Here is a legible example of a marriage requiring dispensation - marriage in > the first and second degrees - an uncle marrying his niece.... > > In 1877 José Jacintho da Camara Leite (age 49) married Dona Maria Julia > Vicencia (age 20) - she is the daughter of my great great grandparents > Manuel Barbosa and Maria Vicencia da Camara Leite. And he is the brother of > my great great grandmother Maria Vicencia da Camara Leite. > > This was most likely done to keep the money and land in the same family, I'm > told. The uncle was wealthy and the owner of the casa senhorial (manor house) > in Lombinha da Maia > > > > page 1 bottom of the page, right side > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1870-1879/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1870-1879_item1/P110.html > > page2 top of the page, left side > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1870-1879/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1870-1879_item1/P111.html > > > Casamento José Jacintho da Camara Leite e D. Maria Julia Vicencia > <Screen Shot 2015-09-16 at 7.44.57 AM.png> > > > Casa Senhorial, Lombinha da Maia, SãoMiguel > <Casa Senhorial.png> > > MaryAnn Santos > > > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:38 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: > If a couple is related in some way, they need to apply for a dispensation. > > The two ways to be related are by consanguinity (blood) or by affinity (your > spouse dies, so you marry their brother or sister, i.e. the in-law). > > 1st degree: Rather rare. Uncle - niece, aunt-nephew. I think there's some > other stuff as 1st degree. I think only once in the history of this list was > a 1st degree posted. > > 2nd degree: 1st cousins > 3rd degree: 2nd cousins > 4th degree: 3rd cousins > > After that, the Catholic church did not care. > > If a couple were related, a dispensation had to be applied for. They don't > necessarily follow a format. The ones I saw (Sao Miguel island ancestry) had > a interview with the groom and one with the bride. Ask how they met, why they > wanted to marry. Said how they were related. So if you are at a point where > you are running out of records (because they don't exist anymore) you may > find a few more generations in a dispensation. HOWEVER, not all dispensations > exist either. > > Currently, Joao Ventura, the archivist can look for a dispensation for you. > You need to be able to provide him with the marriage where it says they were > related and he will get back to you with his fees. heroi99 at yahoo.com > > All existing dispensations for all 9 Azores islands are house in the archives > in Angra, as the Diocese seat for the Azores is in Angra. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, > Achada > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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