Sorry the Mass marriage record is correct couple. There is a license and a ceremony record for them.
The Fresno story concerning the pig is the other Joe M Cotta family on the census. I've noticed that anyone who didn't know their birthday used March 15th on their draft card Eric Edgar On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:33 PM, luiznoia . <[email protected]> wrote: > Here are documents not to go searching for because I've ruled them out > > Eric Edgar > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:27 PM, luiznoia . <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The Mass marriage and birth record align with thge 1910 census >> >> The 1913 shiplist shows Francisco came to the US in 1906, and is >> returning to his brother Jose Martins Cotta in Sanger, Fresno. Father is >> Jose Martins Cotta in Biscoitos >> >> I have no censuses for 1920 for this Cotta family. >> >> 1923 Portuguese newspaper records Velma's first marriage >> >> 1931 Santa Ana paper shows divorce filed after desertion in 1928 >> >> The 1930 shows, what seems to be Edward, son of Velma and Manuel Coelho >> with her parents Manuel >> >> >> Eric Edgar >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:17 PM, luiznoia . <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> This was a very tricky family to sort out. I'm going to post what I have >>> for the group to see if anyone relates to these families, has worked on >>> related families, or just for a second look at things. >>> >>> First, there are three Jose Martins Cotta who left Biscoitos, Terceira >>> within a few months in 1901. Two of those came to the Tulare, Kings, Fresno >>> area. Two of them had brothers named Francisco. >>> >>> One of the fathers was Jose Martins Cotta, and one was Manuel Martins >>> Cotta. >>> >>> I do not have draft notices that fit the two who appear on the 1910 >>> census in Kaweah, Tulare >>> >>> I have no clear death record for Frank M Cotta. >>> >>> >>> I'll post a number of records in a few messages >>> >>> Eric Edgar >>> >>> *Descendants of Jose Martins Cotta* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Generation No. 1* >>> >>> >>> >>> *1.* JOSE MARTINS2 COTTA* (J**OSE** M**ARTIN*1*)* He married MARIA B >>> ALBINA, daughter of JOSE OURIQUE and JOSEFA CONSTANCIA. >>> >>> >>> >>> Children of JOSE COTTA and MARIA BALBINA are: >>> >>> 2. i. JOSE MARTIN3 COTTA, b. 19 Mar 1882, Biscoitos, >>> Terceira, Azores; d. 12 Jun 1961, Chino, San Bernardino, California. >>> >>> ii. FRANCISCO MARTIN COTTA, b. 21 Nov 1884, >>> Biscoitos, Terceira, Azores. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Generation No. 2* >>> >>> >>> >>> *2.* JOSE MARTIN3 COTTA* (J**OSE** M**ARTINS*2*, J**OSE** M**ARTIN*1*)* >>> was born 19 Mar 1882 in Biscoitos, Terceira, Azores, and died 12 Jun 1961 >>> in Chino, San Bernardino, California. He married MARIA M CONCEIACO 12 >>> Sep 1901 in Lowell, Massachucetts, daughter of JOSE CONCEICAO and JOSEFA. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Children of JOSE COTTA and MARIA CONCEIACO are: >>> >>> i. MARY M4 COTTA, b. 31 Jan 1903, Taunton, >>> Bristol, Massachucetts; d. 15 May 1990, Tulare. California; m. SOUZA. >>> >>> 3. ii. VELMA COTTA, b. 15 Mar 1910, California; d. 30 >>> Jan 1971, Tulare. California. >>> >>> 4. iii. ROSE ALICE COTTA, b. 1913, California; d. 24 >>> Sep 2014, Tulare. California. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Generation No. 3* >>> >>> >>> >>> *3.* VELMA4 COTTA* (J**OSE** M**ARTIN*3*, J**OSE** M**ARTINS*2*, J* >>> *OSE** M**ARTIN*1*)* was born 15 Mar 1910 in California, and died 30 >>> Jan 1971 in Tulare. California. She married (1) MANUEL M COELHO 1923 >>> in Tulare, California. She married (2) JOE G HUGHES 1933 in Reno, >>> Nevada. >>> >>> >>> >>> Child of VELMA COTTA and MANUEL COELHO is: >>> >>> i. EDWARD5 COELHO, b. 1926, California. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *4.* ROSE ALICE4 COTTA* (J**OSE** M**ARTIN*3*, J**OSE** M**ARTINS*2*, >>> J**OSE** M**ARTIN*1*)* was born 1913 in California, and died 24 Sep >>> 2014 in Tulare. California. She married JOSEPH LEAL, son of LEAL and B >>> ORGES. He was born 08 Feb 1910 in Azores, and died 28 Dec 1999 in >>> Tulare. California. >>> >>> >>> >>> Children of ROSE COTTA and JOSEPH LEAL are: >>> >>> i. DOLORES5 LEAL. >>> >>> ii. LUCILLE LEAL. >>> >>> iii. IRENE LEAL. >>> >>> iv. MARY LEAL. >>> >>> v. ALICE LEAL. >>> >>> vi. TERESA LEAL. >>> >>> vii. LAURA LEAL. >>> >>> viii. JOSEPH LEAL. >>> >>> ix. JAMES LEAL. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 5:33 PM, nancy jean baptiste < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Congratulations! What a thrill it must be to talk with your cousin! >>>> Your mother's sisters daughter! Thank you for sharing this mystery as it >>>> unfolded. For those of us who are your cousins, there's still that mystery >>>> of "how/who/ when? Do you have a connection to the Azores yet? I know there >>>> was talk of looking at the passports. You already have your MTDNA...right? >>>> >>>> Best regards for the continued story unfolding.... I like >>>> Belmira....aka, Velma......married at 13....you have a good story there. >>>> >>>> Nancy Jean >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta >>>> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 16:43:34 -0700 >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> How wonderful! So many of us have watched this quest unfold and it is >>>> so nice to read of your success! >>>> >>>> Susan Vargas Murphy >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Oct 28, 2015, at 9:22 AM, Dave Worman <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Success!!! >>>> >>>> Thank you to each and every one of you who have spent time searching on >>>> my behalf and to each one of you following this thread. I could not have >>>> done it without you. You are an answer to my prayers! God Bless you! >>>> >>>> I have been searching for Velma Cotta, my birth mother, for most of my >>>> adult life with no results beyond finding out her name and marriage to my >>>> birth father. Due to the help from members of this group - she has been >>>> identified and I have been able to locate and contact my actual, real 1st >>>> cousin! A child of Velma's sister! >>>> >>>> The information came in a little bit at a time but then quickly once we >>>> were pretty sure we were on the right trail. Understanding the name change >>>> from Belmira to Velma was really the first clue. Then census info, >>>> newspapers articles, tracking the people who might be the right family, >>>> finding graves, then obituaries of Velma's parents (thank you Sequoia >>>> Genealogical Society!) and then the obituary of Velma's sister. I don't >>>> have permission to name the people who actually found all this but you can >>>> find them on this thread :) They did all the important work as I have no >>>> clue. >>>> >>>> To you who have been searching, too. Keep looking and trying and I >>>> hope for your success! >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yeah, that's the spelling. I knew it looked a little off! >>>> >>>> Cheri Mello >>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >>>> Tainhas, Achada >>>> >>>> -- >>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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