Mark, It say the child Joao is the natural son of Emilia de Jesus married to Rufino da Camara who was away or may have imigrated more than 2 years ago. It goes on to list the maternal grandparents with the paternal grandparents being "unknown" incognito.
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for your help. I figured that they were seperated. I also have > another record for them that seems to list Rufino as "imigrado" > > . > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CANDELARIA-B-1880-1889/SMG-PD-CANDELARIA-B-1880-1889_item1/P101.html > > > I am guessing he immigrated to somewhere else when this son Joao was born > but why wouldn't it say "filho legitimo"? If it is still his son or maybe > its not. I always know something is up when the mother is listed first in > a baptism record then casado to: This seems to say that she was the mother > but she was married to:?? I guess that it unless it says filho or filha > ligitmo then lists the father then it is otherwise not his. > > On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 9:17:18 PM UTC-5, Mark wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> Can anyone take a look at this record and let me know what you think: >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CANDELARIA-B-1880-1889/SMG-PD-CANDELARIA-B-1880-1889_item1/P172.html >> >> >> It is a baptism record for a Maria (entry # 39) that doesn't list her >> father or say exposto or pai incognito. I can make out what looks like >> seperada (9th line). Does this mean the parents were seperated? >> >> I have about four other baptism records for the same couple that showed >> they were the parents of exposto children and in all theses records, the >> wife (Emilia de Jesus) was always listed on the record first, then it said >> casada ? Rufino da Camara. Maybethis record just doesn't mention him this >> time but what is with the "seperada"? >> >> This record doesn't mention him at all. Could they have been seperated? I >> don't see any words that can mean dead or buried. I don't think I've heard >> of couples being separated back then in the Azores. I'm sure it's possible >> but I have just never come across it. >> >> >> As a side note, of the 4 records for exposto children I believe Emilia >> and Rufino took in, 3 of them have their names smudged or erased from the >> index pages of these books. Was that done on purpose to protect them later >> on in life? I know from my limited research into Azores genealogy that the >> "tag" of Exposto or pai incognito usually followed a person with them into >> most other records like passports, marriage, death. Why try to erase their >> status from the indices of these books? >> >> >> Any advice or suggestions anyone can provide would be greatly >> appreciated. I don't think enough credit is given to many of the group >> members who help others with translations or advice on many different >> topics. I know I for one wouldn't get far in my research with out the help >> the members provide so thanks for that. >> >> >> -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
