We're still waiting for our dna results...its been about 6 weeks now..can't wait. On Apr 28, 2016 11:56 AM, "Cheri Mello" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yeah, and I have another adoptee where endogamy is impacting the close > matches. We can't prove all families off of one. We need many people to > test and we need to look to see how endogamy (and how much endogamy) > impacts the various families that have tested thus far. We need more people > to DNA test to figure this all out. Hopefully your theory is correct. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Laura Flanagan <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Cheri, >> I am working with a dna guru on this and we have triangulated 10 dna >> matches to this couple. The strongest match shares 160 seg on one side, >> and a 61 cmg match on the other, along with 8 others. This is a sure >> thing. I am attaching a chart for you I have created regarding known >> Azorean cousins v. dna relationships. As you get 4th and closer, you can >> see that endogomy does not impact the results as much as one may think! >> Laura >> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Laura, >>> >>> Just beware because of our endogomy issue (intermarriage), what looks >>> like an 2rd-3rd cousin may be more like 3rd-4th cousin. >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >>> Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joanne Mercier < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello cousin! >>>> what little I have I can gladly share but I have more ancestry than >>>> descendants for that branch of the family tree. It seems we are related >>>> through Manuel Medeiros Grota & Maria Francesca Moura - he is the brother >>>> of my 2x great grandfather Antonio de Medeiros. I have very little info on >>>> that line so maybe between us we can fill in some gaps. >>>> >>>> One piece of information I was told when I began my genealogical >>>> addiction about 15 years ago was that all the Medeiros Grota's from >>>> Bretanha are related so that has been a huge help. I'll gladly share what I >>>> have on them if it will be a help to you. Just let me know! >>>> >>>> Welcome to the family! >>>> *Joanne* >>>> >>>> *Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier* >>>> Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa (Luiz, >>>> d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Laura Flanagan <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So, my dna results are indicating these folks were my 1st or 2nd great >>>>> grandparents! Fantastic lead, but I am having trouble identifying >>>>> descendants. Does anyone have this couple in their lines? Descendant >>>>> information would be greatly appreciated! >>>>> >>>>> Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha, son of Francisco Carvalho >>>>> and Francisca Thomasia >>>>> (maternal grandparents: Manuel Medeiros Grota and Maria Francisca / >>>>> paternal grandparents: Manuel Carvalho and Maria Rosa) >>>>> >>>>> married in Ajuda Bretanha on 6 Sep 1897 to >>>>> >>>>> Antonia da Conceicao Travassos, daughter of Luis Travassos b. 26 Feb >>>>> 1833 Ajuda Bretanha and Francisca de Jesus b. abt 1835. >>>>> (maternal grandparents: Joao de Balhao (spelling?) and Maria Jacintha >>>>> / paternal grandparents: Manuel Travassos and Maria Joaquina Carvalho) >>>>> >>>>> Joao and Antonia had the following children, all born in Ajuda >>>>> Bretanha, (there are likely more born bet 1912 and 1920 that I have not >>>>> yet >>>>> found): >>>>> >>>>> Manuel, b. 21 Jun 1898 >>>>> Maria, b. 15 Sep 1900 >>>>> Anibal, b. 5 Apr 1902 >>>>> Cecilia b. 11 Nov 1908, married Luis Arruda in Santa Clara, Ponta >>>>> Delgada, on 3 Apr 1955 >>>>> Luis Carvalho, 14 Mar 1912, married someone in Bretanha on 14 Nov 1953 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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