Was her birthdate in May of 1885/6 and was she born in S.Barbara or Agua de Pau?
Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Celeste, > > I have this family on my tree as they are related to me. There are more > then one Serafim de Morais and Joao de Morais. One family is from Agua de > Pau and the other from Santa Barbara. They are cousins. > > Serafim had two older sisters, born in 1868 and 1873. The latter was > deceased same year, and the first I don't have the obit. I have 9 children > for Joao de Morais (from Agua de Pau) married to Jacinta Libania in Santa > Barbara of Ribeira Grande. > > Serafim's brother Jose, married in Relva, Ponta Delgada. > > Please refer to the emails we exchanged back in November 2015. > > Regarding Maria, I sent you all the documents proof from ancestry and > passports. > Maria arrived and travelled with Serafim. > On the manifest he declares they are his nieces. > Maria de Morais, Luzia and Rosa clearly stated along with their ages.. > He also declared he was going to his cousin Joao do Couto Cordeiro? can't > be sure as they wrote over it, the address was 368 Hope Street, Bristol, > RI. > The reason you couldn't find Maria's birth record was because you were > looking for the wrong parents. > The passports give parents as Jacinto de Medeiros not Joao de Morais and > as such I sent you the birth record for the said Maria de Morais who > arrived with Serafim in 1904. > > > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:19 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao >> Moraes, died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I >> did not find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have >> any wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to >> RI. If they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. >> >> Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that his >> Jose was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with him >> for a number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that is a >> possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the margin >> of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form that >> was filled out by someone at the church. >> >> I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the >> church to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin >> and was not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's >> allows us to make that trip soon. >> >> My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a lot >> of new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name >> Jacintha Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to >> finding if the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the >> family she thught was hers. >> >> Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. >> Celeste Perry [email protected] >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo >> To: "Azores Genealogy" <[email protected]> >> Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM >> >> Hi Celeste, >> Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande >> is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 >> >> I'm guessing >> you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that >> wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 >> years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they >> baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but >> it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and >> they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the >> middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a >> couple years (when they had their next kid). >> >> Where did the >> great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? >> >> Also, you >> could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose >> test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim >> test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and >> should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless >> you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a >> Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add >> on "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one >> was from the other one. >> >> Cheri >> >> >> >> -- >> >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or >> No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and >> visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. >> Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join >> this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> >> --- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >> from it, send an email to [email protected]. >> >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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