Hi JR,
Very interesting, except according to the naturalization papers for
Antonio, he and Maria were married in New Bedford, MA on June 12, 1911. It
also lists Maria as being born in 1891, though the headstone in New Bedford
says 1890, so it seems a bit of an inconsistency, although since he was
filling it out, he could have gotten some information wrong. I did not
find a marriage certificate at city hall, so was going to go to the MA
vital records to see what I could find there.
Interesting regarding Jose - I did find Anna Maria, so happened upon
the right Ana, though I can see how confusing it can get!
I'm now digging through the passport information to see if I can find
the right info - depending on the calligraphy handwriting, it can be hard
to interpret. It's definitely an interesting process looking, though!
Elaine
On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 1:50:49 PM UTC-4, JR wrote:
>
> There was a mix-up in your ancestry regarding your greats - Ana da Silva
> and Ana Maria da Mota. It turns out they were both married to Jose Ignacio
> [de Lima]. First time with Anna da Silva, Oct 18- 1820, in Ponta Garca;
> second time with Anna Maria da Mota, Dec 9- 1829, in Povoacao. Anna Maria
> da Mota is your ancestor. I believe Cheri and Shirley have the rest of your
> line.
>
> An interesting aside is, that Anna da Silva, first wife of Jose Ignacio,
> died shortly after, or in childbirth, Aug 10- 1829, in RQ. The RQ priest
> recorded a twin baptism in RQ dated Aug 23- 1829. Of course the dates are
> off, I think due to when the information got to the priest. The priest
> recorded the baptismal information, Feb 5- 1833. Even more interesting is
> that priest wrote twins on margin, but recorded three names on the margin,
> Manoel, Roza and Anna!! A fine and interesting start to your search. Good
> luck!
>
> JR
>
>
>
> *Ancestors of Maria de Lima*
>
>
>
>
>
> *Generation No. 1*
>
>
>
> *1.* *Maria de Lima,* born 25 Dec 1890 in Ribeira Quente- Sao
> Paulo; died 26 Jan 1960 in New Bedford, MA. She was the daughter of *2.
> Joao Inacio de Lima* and *3. Francisca Rosa de Melo*. She married *(1)
> Antonio de Melo* Abt. 1910 in Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo. He was born 26
> Feb 1889 in Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo, and died 11 May 1958 in New Bedford,
> MA. He was the son of Antonio de Melo Barbosa and Claudina de Jesus da
> Silva.
>
>
>
> *Generation No. 2*
>
>
>
> *2.* *Joao Inacio de Lima,* born 19 Nov 1846 in Ribeira Quente-
> Sao Paulo. He was the son of *4. Jose Inacio de Lima or Pimentel* and *5.
> Ana Maria da Mota*. He married *3. Francisca Rosa de Melo* 26 Jan 1882
> in Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo.
>
> *3.* *Francisca Rosa de Melo,* born Abt. 1855 in Ribeira Quente-
> Sao Paulo. She was the daughter of *6. Manuel de Melo Barbosa* and *7.
> Maria Julia*.
>
>
>
> Child of Joao Lima and Francisca Melo is:
>
> 1 i. Maria de Lima, born 25 Dec 1890 in Ribeira
> Quente- Sao Paulo; died 26 Jan 1960 in New Bedford, MA; married Antonio de
> Melo Abt. 1910 in Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Generation No. 3*
>
>
>
> *4.* *Jose Inacio de Lima or Pimentel,* born Abt. 1801 in Ponta
> Garca, NS da Piedade. He was the son of Inacio de Lima and Maria de
> Medeiros Pimentel Tavares. He married *5. Ana Maria da Mota* 09 Dec 1829
> in Povoacao, Mae de Deus.
>
> *5.* *Ana Maria da Mota,* born in Povoacao, Mae de Deus. She
> was the daughter of Francisco da Mota and Francisca de Jesus da Mota.
>
>
>
> Children of Jose Lima or Pimentel and Ana Mota are:
>
> i. Antonio, born 24 Mar 1831 in Ribeira
> Quente.
>
> ii. Francisca, born 12 Dec 1833 in Ribeira
> Quente.
>
> iii. Jacinta Emilia da Conceicao, born Abt.
> 1841 in Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo; married Jose da Costa Carneiro 11 Feb
> 1874 in Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo; born Abt. 1842 in Ribeira Quente- Sao
> Paulo.
>
> iv. Joao, born Abt. 1841 in Ribeira Quente- Sao
> Paulo; died 12 Apr 1846 in Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo.
>
> v. Joaquim Inacio de Lima, born Abt. 1844 in
> Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo; married Mariana Emilia da Conceicao 10 May 1876
> in Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo; born Abt. 1851 in Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo.
>
> 2 vi. Joao Inacio de Lima, born 19 Nov 1846 in
> Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo; married Francisca Rosa de Melo 26 Jan 1882 in
> Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo.
>
>
>
>
>
> *6.* *Manuel de Melo Barbosa,* born in Ribeira Quente- Sao
> Paulo. He was the son of Francisco de Melo Barbosa and Ana Rosa do
> Espirito Santo. He married *7. Maria Julia* 01 Dec 1854 in Ribeira
> Quente- Sao Paulo.
>
> *7.* *Maria Julia,* born Abt. 1831 in Ribeira Quente- Sao
> Paulo. She was the daughter of Jacinto Jose de Linhares and Joana Joaquina
> or Joana Maria Melo.
>
>
>
> Children of Manuel Melo Barbosa and Maria are:
>
> 3 i. Francisca Rosa de Melo, born Abt. 1855 in
> Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo; married Joao Inacio de Lima 26 Jan 1882 in
> Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo.
>
> ii. Jose de Melo Barbosa, born Abt. 1863 in
> Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo; married Francisca de Jesus 31 Oct 1888 in
> Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo; born in Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 11:51:37 AM UTC-4, Shirley Allegre wrote:
>>
>> They married in 1911, in Massachusetts. The info is in my car right
>> now. I am upstairs and don't feel like going to the garage to get it. I
>> also found other info which I will try to send tomorrow.
>> I have attached a "Portuguese Words" list that I made up. It should help
>> a little.
>> Shirley in CA
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Elaine Mello
>> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2016 3:07 PM
>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New to tracing the Mello family tree
>>
>> Hi Cheri,
>>
>> If we are related, it will be interested to see how, as I have so
>> little information on my end. Here's the info that I do have:
>>
>> grandfather - Antonio Mello Born Feb 25, 1889, Immigrated April 18, 1901
>> from Porta Delgada aboard the Dona Maria. Died May 11, 1958 in New
>> Bedford, MA. His parents are listed on the death certificate as Antonio
>> Mello and Claudina Silva.
>> grandmother - Maria Lima - Born Dec 25. 1891. Immigrated August 12,
>> 1907, though census shows anywhere from 1905 to 1907.. Died January 26,
>> 1960 in New Bedford, MA. Her parents are listed as John Lima and Francisca
>> Barboza. The headstone lists her birth as 1890. The 1891 date is from
>> Antonio's naturalization papers in 1941.
>>
>> They married sometime around 1910 / 1911 and had 4 children from 1912 -
>> 1926 (Sara, Antone, Agnes and Mary Carmen). I could not find a marriage
>> certificate when looking at city hall, but I may not have searched far back
>> enough to find it. .
>>
>> Thanks for any help you can give!
>>
>> Elaine
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 5:44:58 PM UTC-4, Elaine Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I've begun searching for my father's side of the family with little
>>> to no information, other than what I found by going to the New Bedford, MA
>>> city hall to look up information about my grandparents. I did find
>>> information on their death certificates, which helped a little, but my
>>> searching for additional information brings up a lot of conflicting
>>> information on Ancestry (such as naturalization papers listing one date for
>>> arrival, but searching for the boat lists a completely different date that
>>> does not have any recognizable names on the passenger list.)
>>>
>>> What I did find out is that my father was a 3rd generation of the
>>> same name (Antonio/Antone Mello, possibly DeMello) and that both
>>> grandparents came from Rebeira Quente, St. Michael, Azores around 1901 for
>>> my grandfather and about 1905 - 1907 for my grandmother (Maria Lima, born
>>> 1890 or 1891).
>>>
>>> Any tips or suggestions on where to look further would be
>>> appreciated!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Elaine
>>>
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