Manuel is on the list. Go to bed and look tomorrow.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:54 PM, 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I've got Balthazar and Appolonia, no Vielminha. I have Bartolomeu on both
> my Azorean and Italian lines.
>
> Stopping note now as my Maine Coon is trying to assist me while typing.
> Taken 3 minutes to get out 3 lines somewhat grammatical. At least I'm now
> getting some musical accompaniment as I'm signing off. Purrrrrrr 😄
>
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:32 PM, linda <menesesli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Gayle,
>
> Eugenia!  don't think I've seen that one.  I have seen "Aida."  Those
> wacky Victorian era parents--no old fashioned Balthazars (approved) or
> Apolonarias (not approved) for them!   I had a great aunt Vielminha (not
> approved), and I recently started wondering if there was some sort of
> German fad in the 19th c to account for all the Gertrudes and if possibly
> Vielminha was a variation on Wilhelmina.   Saint's names (like Joanna or
> Barbara) usually fall as Portuguese on my ears.  But, I had a Portuguese
> friend in kindergarten (Joanne; Joana is approved) who's mom was named
> "MaryAnn", and until early this week it had never occurred to me that she
> was probably named for a "Marianna" (approved) in her family.... I'd just
> been amazed that she had such a modern, American-as-apple-pie name for
> someone so culturally Portuguese.  Anyway... names!  yup.
>
> :)
> Linda
>
> On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 8:49:44 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Linda,
>>
>> Thanks for the context of the conversation. I do know that when I was
>> doing my research, I found names on Pico that I did not think would be
>> "traditionally" Portuguese. Joanna, Barbara and Eugenia come to mind. The
>> last one caused a fellow researcher to insist I couldn't possibly be
>> reading the record correctly until I produced it. You never know what the
>> motivations were for choosing names. While the given names may be
>> interesting, the alcunhas in the records are positively fascinating.
>>
>> Gayle
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:39 PM, linda <menese...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gayle,
>>
>> Cheri answered your question, but for context: I mentioned "Gertrudes"
>> because in the records I've looked at, it seemed to be an extremely popular
>> name for girls in the late 19th century-- something I would never have
>> guessed.   The article Cheri linked to stated that "As far as tradition,
>> the law favors names that are traditionally Portuguese,"  and I was curious
>> whether "Gertrudes" made the list or not.  I guess that historically
>> popular doesn't automatically  mean "traditionally Portuguese"
>>
>> :D
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 6:13:32 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I've apparently missed the beginning of this conversation, so I'm
>>> curious as to your interpretation of "modern." I have in my database a
>>> woman whose name was Gertrudes born in 1727 in Candelaria, Pico.
>>>
>>> Gayle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 4:52 PM, linda <menese...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...but "Gertrudes" is not.
>>>
>>> :D
>>>
>>> Linda
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 4:11:57 PM UTC-7, linda wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Jorge" is OK
>>>>
>>>> L.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 9:53:46 AM UTC-7, George Sousa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ... and George is not... In fact (if I read this correctly) many of
>>>>> our ancestors names are not on the list. I find this practice extremely 
>>>>> odd.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 8:41 AM, 'Doris Mello' via Azores Genealogy <
>>>>> azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Doris is OK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2016 10:29 PM, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy <
>>>>>> azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh this IS cool! Thanks for posting it Cheri! I downloaded the pdf of
>>>>>> names - it will be a useful tool. Love the article,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 10:24:45 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This came up once before and Eliseu shared the list of acceptable
>>>>>> names for children today in Portugal. Here is a little write up in the
>>>>>> "Portuguese American Journal" about names today. It also contains a link 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the list that Eliseu previously provided. https://goo.gl/OwuQCF
>>>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>>>>> Tainhas, Achada
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