Thank you. I find CCA a marvelous tool and I like it where it is. I also use Familysearch and find their tools very good, too. I realize all of the scanning came from Familysearch, I am not a fan of 'giving' data to others. The Mormon Church's idea of giving Identity Nos. to everyone who somehow ends up in their trees is disturbing to me. I just dealt with an incident where a 'relative' had entered my husband and I as deceased. The person who entered our name, is deceased so we could not very well ask him to change the information. I was able to have our status changed to living, but I was unable to remove our names. We will forever have identity nos. associated with the Church. Please do not take this as criticism, as it is not meant to be. I am just saying when data is released in this age, it is sometimes misused and abused. Imagine if Ancestry had the data. I respect your reasoning, too. Tish
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 8:16 AM, João Ventura <j...@venturas.org> wrote: > Hi Tish. > > The CCA would not have to give away the data.. The data provided by the > CCA was actually obtained from FamilySearch in the first place, which in > turn scanned the originals in the Horta, Angra and Ponta Delgada archives > (which are a separate entity than the CCA, all of them dependent of the > DRaC - the Regional Cultural Agency). > > As to CCA as resource for tourism and revenue, I don't follow. The data > could also stay where it is currently. You would just have two sources.. > It's just that one of the sources has massive pockets for genealogy. And of > course, they could serve you the high-resolution scan of the books, instead > of the reduced-beyond-recognition images that some older books have in CCA. > > João Ventura > http://tombo.pt/en > > * Well, not really always, but we're talking about genealogical > timeframes, not geological ones. > > On Monday, 16 January 2017 18:26:05 UTC+1, sfig wrote: >> >> João, thank you for your input. You are so right. The down time for CCA >> should not make CCA so discredited. They are doing a great service. We are >> living in a society where everyone is so impatient. Does it really matter >> if you are unable to look something up for a day, or two? I also agree, >> Familysearch has the resources, but for the Azores to give away the data >> would not only mean nobody would go to CCA, but would reduce CCA as a >> resource for tourism and revenue. Why do you think the Portuguese are >> offering citizenships with so little commitment to the people who apply >> (revenue)? I am not writing this in criticism of Portugal, it's just the >> climate of small governments around the world at this time. >> >> Tish >> >> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 8:38 AM, João Ventura <jo...@venturas.org> wrote: >> >>> Victor, >>> >>> The "cloud" is not free... And while I do agree that on principle it >>> would make sense, the truth is that the thing that's REALLY expensive on >>> the cloud is storage. You can get Amazon Web Services to scale easily the >>> number of servers, but telling that each of those servers would have to be >>> able to store and replicate several Terabytes of data would probably >>> consume the budget for the whole archipelago quite fast. >>> >>> And it doesn't make sense to have several servers all going to the same >>> storage server wherever they store all those images. >>> >>> Things that would make sense: >>> 1. Allowing Familysearch to serve those images (pros: free, and no work >>> necessary; cons: nobody would use the CCA servers ever again). >>> 2. See 1., to be honest. >>> >>> João Ventura >>> https://tombo.pt/en >>> >>> On Saturday, 14 January 2017 19:10:58 UTC+1, Victor Soares wrote: >>>> >>>> They should load all that data up on the cloud to be fault tolerant. >>>> Likely cheaper and less of a maintenance hassle for the CCA admins. >>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 09:42 Ângela Loura <angel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Contacts: >>>>> >>>>> drac.i...@azores.gov.pt >>>>> drac...@azores.gov.pt >>>>> >>>>> 2017-01-14 17:35 GMT+00:00 Richard Francis Pimentel < >>>>> rickre...@gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> *CCA seems to have gone down this morning around 10:00 am EST. As of >>>>>> now it is still down.* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Rick* >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> sfig >> Researching >> Island: Santa Maria >> Freguesia: Santa Barbara >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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