You're welcome, cousin JR

Here is the baptism record for our ancestor, Maria Carvalha
(Daughter of Jeronimo Martins x Maria Carvalha)

Ginetes, Batismos 1588-1677 > 0154.  


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P154.html

Maria Elena 

> On Feb 4, 2017, at 9:58 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thank you so, so much!
> 
> John
> 
> 
> On Saturday, February 4, 2017 10:17 AM, Maria Lima <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>  JR, here is baptismal record for Luzia and the others:
> 
> LUZIA's BAPTISMAL RECORD
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707_item1/P43.html
> 
> LUZIA was the second child.  The first was MARIA.  HERE IS MARIA's baptismal  
> record; second on left page
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707_item1/P33.html
> 
> MARGARIDA
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707_item1/P52.html
> 
> JOSEFA, page 63
> 
> MANOEL, page 74
> 
> BRAZ, page 85
> 
> JOAO, page 98
> 
> JOSEFA, page 105
> 
> MECIA, page 113
> 
> BALTHEZAR 
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1707-1728/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1707-1728_item1/P16.html
> 
> My husband descends from Balthezar.   
> 
> Oh oh- I don't think I searched after BALTHEZAR, there might be more children 
> and I didn't think to look (yet).  
> 
> Maria Elena 
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2017, at 7:11 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you so much! I descend from Luzia. Which one is your ancestor? Thanks 
>> again.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, February 3, 2017 7:24 PM, Maria Lima <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> JR : these are the 10 children for this couple baptized in GINETES, Baptisms 
>> 1678-1707
>> 
>> MARIA, 23 February 1687 these are baptismal dates 
>> LUZIA 18 September 1689
>> MARGARIDA 3 February 1692
>> JOSEFA 28 October 1694
>> MANOEL 29 December 1697
>> BRAZ - 1 January 1701 (born) they started recording birth date
>> JOAO June 1703 (no birth date here)
>> JOSEFA 28 October 1704 birthdate
>> MECIA 24 January 1706 birthdate
>> BALTHEZAR 29 August 1709 birthdate my husband's ancestor
>> 
>> I looked for an obit for the first JOSEFA all the way up to the birth of the 
>> second JOSEFA but did not find one.
>> 
>> 
>> Maria Elena 
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2017, at 5:27 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would love to have the name of all those kids. Thank you so much!
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Friday, February 3, 2017 5:07 PM, Maria Lima <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> JR:
>>> 
>>> I found LUZIA!!  Here's her baptismal record.  This (I THINK) is the No 1 
>>> person in the Ahnentafel Chart you sent me.
>>> 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707_item1/P43.html
>>> 
>>> If we're talking about the same person, then, you had her birth year as 
>>> 1687 and that's why I couldn't find her at first.  I only found her when I 
>>> saw there was a big gap of years between her older sisterand the next 
>>> child.  The computer indicated I might be "missing a child", and what do 
>>> you think!  I was missing Luzia.  She was baptized 18 September 1689
>>> 
>>> Is she your ancestor or is ANTONIO Ferreira your ancestor?  
>>> 
>>> Again, thank you and if you want the names of the other siblings, I'll 
>>> gladly send you the names and links and sources. Antonio Ferreira and Maria 
>>> Carvalha had a total of 10 kids. 
>>> 
>>> Warm regards,
>>> 
>>> Maria Elena 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 2, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Maria Lima <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello John,  yes!  Thank you so much for sending me this information.  My 
>>> husband descends through Antonio Ferreira, baptized 3 July 1653 in 
>>> Mosteiros.  Your sheet has him being born in São Sebastião, Ginetes.  Your 
>>> marriage date and mine coincide, as well as the bride, Maria Carvalha (o). 
>>> 
>>> I was trying to locate the baptism of your person who is number 1 on your 
>>> sheet:  LUZIA FERREIRA.  But I did not find her baptism in Ginetes.  Am 
>>> looking in Mosteiros.  I want to figure out how she is related to ANTONIO 
>>> Ferreira.   (Who is she). 
>>> 
>>> Are you descended through her or one of Antonio's siblings.  I found all of 
>>> them if you want to correspond, I can send them to you.  (  you probably 
>>> already have that already) 
>>> 
>>> As always, you are kind and so willing to help us.  Thank you.  Maybe we 
>>> are related ( well, my husband and you). 
>>> 
>>> Maria Elena 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2017, at 2:44 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Could this be what you are looking for?
>>>> 
>>>> Ahnentafel Chart for Luzia Ferreira
>>>> First Generation
>>>>  
>>>>       1. Luzia Ferreira  was born on 18 Sep 1687 in São Sebastião, 
>>>> Ginetes, São Miguel, Açores.
>>>> Luzia was not married to Unknown .
>>>>  
>>>> Second Generation
>>>>  
>>>>       2. Antonio Ferreira  was born in São Sebastião, Ginetes, São Miguel, 
>>>> Açores. He married Maria Carvalho on 11 Jul 1686 in São Sebastião, 
>>>> Ginetes, São Miguel, Açores.
>>>> Godfather to Antonio, son of Manuel Ferreira and Mariana Quaresma on 
>>>> 14-2-1678
>>>>       3. Maria Carvalho  was born in São Sebastião, Ginetes, São Miguel, 
>>>> Açores.
>>>>  
>>>> Third Generation
>>>>  
>>>>       4. Sebastião Ferreira  was born in Mosteiros, São Miguel, Açores. He 
>>>> married Catarina Cabral.
>>>>       5. Catarina Cabral  was born in Mosteiros, São Miguel, Açores.
>>>>  
>>>>       6. Jeronimo Martins  was born in São Sebastião, Ginetes, São Miguel, 
>>>> Açores. He married Maria Carvalho on 5 Feb 1664 in São Sebastião, Ginetes, 
>>>> São Miguel, Açores.
>>>>       7. Maria Carvalho  was born in São Sebastião, Ginetes, São Miguel, 
>>>> Açores.
>>>>  
>>>> Fourth Generation
>>>>  
>>>>     12. Andre Martins  was born in Mosteiros, São Miguel, Açores. He 
>>>> married Marta Rodrigues.
>>>>     13. Marta Rodrigues  was born in Mosteiros, São Miguel, Açores.
>>>>  
>>>>     14. Gonçalo Pavão  was born in São Sebastião, Ginetes, São Miguel, 
>>>> Açores. He died on 23
>>>>     15. Maria Carvalho  was born in São Sebastião, Ginetes, São Miguel, 
>>>> Açores. She died on 15 Jul 1656 in São Sebastião, Ginetes, São Miguel, 
>>>> Açores. 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> John Miranda Raposo
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Friday, January 20, 2017 11:08 AM, 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I found records in Ginetes for people who lived in Sete Cidades as well. 
>>>> Seems like Ginetes was a central location for that area.
>>>> 
>>>> M
>>>> 
>>>> On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 11:03:25 AM UTC-5, Maria wrote:
>>>> Thanks Richard for reply.  It's what I was afraid of.  So sad!  On the map 
>>>> it looked like Bretanha freguesia would have been too far from the 
>>>> Mosteiros one.  So, I believe I've reached the end of the line on Antonio 
>>>> Ferreira (Mosteiros) married to Maria Carvalha (Ginetes). Marriage wasn't 
>>>> in Ginetes.  I found all their children in Ginetes. 
>>>> 
>>>> Really appreciate your reply 
>>>> 
>>>> Maria Elena 
>>>> 
>>>> > On Jan 9, 2017, at 7:40 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
>>>> > <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>>> > 
>>>> > The closest church to Mosterios is in Bretanha which is NS Ajuda. While 
>>>> > there are baptisms from Mosterios that go to the late 1600's the 
>>>> > marriage records for Mosterios in that time period are most likely lost. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Rick 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Richard Francis Pimentel 
>>>> > Epping, NH 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and 
>>>> > Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > -----Original Message----- 
>>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:azo...@googlegroups. com] On 
>>>> > Behalf Of Maria Lima 
>>>> > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 10:26 PM 
>>>> > To: AZORES 
>>>> > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] MOSTEIROS MARRIAGERECORDS 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Does anyone know if people in the Mosteiros area went to another closely 
>>>> > church that be married in the late 1600's.   
>>>> > 
>>>> > Their Baptisms start in early 1600's and gen their obits but their first 
>>>> > marriages don't start till 1701.   
>>>> > 
>>>> > I don't know where else to look for a marriage record married around 
>>>> > 1690.  I fear it's the end f the line here.   
>>>> > 
>>>> > Maria Elena 
>>>> > 
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