Here's the link to what I am sure is the same record *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867_item1/P177.html* <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867_item1/P177.html> #55, Rosa, center left
Date of birth is 68 years, 7 months, and 18 days prior to 6 June 1933 so it is either her or a remarkable coincidence. Date of Baptism: 23 Oct 1864 Date of Birth: 18 Oct 1864 Father: Manuel Francisco da Silveira, a farmer, native of this parish Mother: Anna Maria, housewife, native of this parish Parents were married in this same parish Paternal grandmother: Maria Ignacia, single (no paternal grandfather listed, presumably incognito) Maternal grandparents: Francisco Jose de Bettencourt and Michaella Rosa Godparents: Franciso Jose de Bettencourt, farmer, widower, and godmother Leonor Margarida, single Chalk one up for family lore since the maternal grandfather is Bettencourt. Bill Seidler On Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 1:58:03 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > I don't see the URL to the baptism in question. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Mary Jane Goss <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> I appreciate everyone's kind help:)a I am trying hard to read Portuguese >> and I apologize for my inadequate grasp of it. I found an entry which I >> think fits the Rosa I am looking for, although the father's name is spelled >> Silveira (as Gayle cautioned me it is spelled different from Silvia). >> Mother's name appears to be Anna Maria. >> >> It then goes on to mention Maria Ignacio, Solteira, mother of Francisco >> O. Bettencourt and Michaella Rosa? xxfather? Francisco Jose de Bettencourt >> Vierra? farmer and xxmother Leonor ? who is dead? >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:11:52 PM >> >> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:> >> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, >> Island of Pico born approx 1863 >> >> You're welcome. When you finally nail down enough information to actually >> allow you to research Sao Mateus, feel free to ask for help. There are only >> a few of us here that research on Pico. There seem to be lots people >> working on Sao Miguel and Sao Jorge. A few on tiny Flores. But, everyone in >> the Azores group is friendly and helpful regardless of where they research. >> My work has been Candelaria, Sao Mateus, Lages, and a smidgen in Madalena. >> So, if your path leads in my direction. I'll do my best to answer your >> question. I do have Bettencourts from Sao Mateus. You mentioned that >> surname as one possibility for Rosa. >> >> I might also suggest before you go much further into the records, that >> you read the article on Naming Traditions. You may already know that >> surnames did not necessarily pass from father to all his offspring. It's >> what we do here in the States, but was not the norm in other parts of the >> world. Good reading. Kathy or Cheri can probably send you a link to the >> article if you ask. >> >> I was only going to have a one sentence response. Sorry I went over >> board. >> >> Happy researching, >> Gayle >> >> On Mar 11, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Mary Jane Goss <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >> That You Gayle, That helps! >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> >> Date: 3/10/17 10:04 PM (GMT-08:00) >> To: [email protected] <javascript:> >> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rose E. Silvia born St. Mathews, Island >> of Pico born approx 1863 >> >> Mary Jane, >> >> It's highly doubtful that you'd find Silvia as a surname. More likely it >> would be Silva or Silveira. Both appear in the Sao Mateus records. >> >> Gayle >> >> >> >> On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:16 PM, Mary Jane Goss <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >> Information from a death certificate in Falmouth Mass shows Rose E. >> Silvia died June 6, 1933 age 68 years 7 months 18 days. It also says her >> parents names were Manuel Silvia, from St. Mathews, Pico, and mother Anna >> Marcia from St. Mathews, Pico. She was the wife of Joseph Silvia who >> predeceased her in 1926. >> >> >> Where might St. Mathews be? Is there a city on the island of Pico named >> St. Mathews? Also I am confused by the information because Silvia was her >> husband's name. Family lore says her maiden name was Bettencourt or some >> variation there of. The census information we have says Jan 1863 was the >> Month and Date of her birth but it doesn't seem to be working with the info >> on the death certificate. >> >> >> We know this is the right woman because the informant was her daughter. >> Her husband's name was reported as Joseph, but it appears it may have been >> John Joseph Sylia. The tombstones say Sylva. >> >> >> Joseph Sylvia died May 28, 1926 at age 55. The parents names say >> "Cannot be learned" but do say he was born in Portugal. >> >> >> I do not know if I have enough information yet to start looking at >> records on Pico. 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