Thanks everyone for the help and input! I'm sure this is totally coincidental but I found this baptism for a Manuel a few days earlier that said he was baptized at home, but lists no god parents. I'm still not great at translating but I believe that is says he then died. It is on the bottom left: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1793-1812/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1793-1812_item1/P78.html
On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 10:50:55 AM UTC-7, Mara wrote: > > Sean, > > Your question: > do you think the godparents were the original godparents from the baptism > mentioned on the note? > > No, they were not. If they were, the attending Priest would not have > baptised the child again. Why? because they would be confirmed witnesses to > the first baptism and as a result this record would not have been issued. > > Who were they? Could be regular Church attending parishioners or they > could make part of the family who will be nursing the baby. > > Home baptisms usually did not have Godparents. One person with some > Christening knowledge would perform it but in the majority of the cases > they were done by the midwife. In such cases the Godparent would be named > by the Priest when performing the anointment ceremony in the Church. > > If you are certain this is your Manuel and want to follow up on the > Godparents you will have to search through baptism and marriage records to > observe a) if any of them are nursing abandoned babies. But this may prove > to be fruitless, for children were given to nursemaids in other villages to > be raised as well. > > If you collect all the baptism records for Manuel Jose de Araujo and his > wife, you will learn more about him this way. > > In my research I have come across Expostos, marrying into the family that > brought them up or helped him along the way. > > Unfortunately, unless a parent claims the child, there's no way of going > further back. > > > > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Sean Andrade <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Thanks for the information. My next question is do you think the >> godparents were the original godparents from the baptism mentioned on the >> note? Which means perhaps there is another baptism record. Or do you think >> those god parents are from the second baptism and who would those people be >> in relation to Manuel? Just random people picked by the church? >> >> On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 9:10:15 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> Maybe, maybe not. The baby could have been baptized at home. The record >>> did not specify if it was a church baptism or one done at home. And if it >>> was a church baptism, it will most likely say pais incognitos. The marriage >>> and death records both say pais incognitos. >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 7:56 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> That may be one of the coolest records I have ever seen! Now you gotta >>>> try to look for the first baptism since it mentions that! >>>> Good luck! >>>> >>>> Jeremy >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > Margaret M Vicente > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
