It looks like I have a different couple with the same names: Sebastiao de Oliveira, of Bretanha, son of Manuel de Oliveira Pimentel and Teresa de Jesus, married Gertrudes da Assuncao, daughter of Miguel de Sousa Cidadao and Maria de Paiva, in Rabo de Peixe on 4 Jun 1759. John
On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:22 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote: John, That can't be correct. That is the date I have for the death of Sebastiao de Oliveira http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-O-1713-1778/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-O-1713-1778_item1/P82.html bottom right entry. I got that date and place from somewhere but when I looked I could not find it. Rick -----Original Message----- From: 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:14 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Miguel, Bretanha, Sebastiao de Oliveira and Gertrudes da Rocha 1733 They were married in Rabo de Peixe on 4 June 1749. On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 11:29 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel <rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote: #yiv3282461519 #yiv3282461519 -- filtered {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} #yiv3282461519 filtered {panose-1:2 4 6 2 5 3 5 3 3 4;} #yiv3282461519 filtered {panose-1:3 8 4 2 3 2 5 11 4 4;} #yiv3282461519 p.yiv3282461519MsoNormal, #yiv3282461519 li.yiv3282461519MsoNormal, #yiv3282461519 div.yiv3282461519MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;} #yiv3282461519 a:link, #yiv3282461519 span.yiv3282461519MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv3282461519 a:visited, #yiv3282461519 span.yiv3282461519MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv3282461519 span.yiv3282461519EmailStyle17 {color:windowtext;font-weight:bold;} #yiv3282461519 .yiv3282461519MsoChpDefault {} #yiv3282461519 filtered {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv3282461519 div.yiv3282461519WordSection1 {} #yiv3282461519 I have traced one of my lines to Sebastiao de Oliveira b. 1708 and Gertrudes da Rocha oi Gertrudes de Sousa da Rocha oi Gertrudes de Oliveira oi Gertrudes de Rocha Carvalha. The earliest record I have found is the birth of a son Joseph (Jose) 11 Jun 1733 in Bretanha. I have found there were two Sebastiao de Oliveira’s in Bretanha at the same time fortunately their wives had very different names. It was also confusing because they both had sons name Jose de Oliveira. While I have searched the Bretanha Marriage book 1703-1779 I have not found the marriage (the book is all out of order), I feel the marriage must have taken place around 1731-32 based on the birth of their son Jose b. 11 Jun 1733 and their ages based on their death dates. I am afraid that if I cannot find a marriage I have hit a dead end. On the birth record it says they are from NS Ajuda in Bretanha as some other records indicate. This is the baptism of Jose on 11 Jun 1733 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1726-1742/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1726-1742_item1/P78.html upper left. Should I just write this off as a dead end? RickRichard Francis PimentelEpping, NH Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.