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> On Jan 7, 2018, at 7:25 PM, Pam Santos <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Look 2yrs prior to the year they state their birthdate too I have found lots 
> that the years of birth are two years younger
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:48 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Scott,
>> 
>> It depends.
>> 
>> You look back historically at the records that are online and it seems that 
>> many occurred within a week. You will find records though where it says the 
>> baby was baptized at home the day it was born and then rebaptized at the 
>> church. You'll find some that were baptized a month later and may even find 
>> quite a few baptized around the same time. I never took the time to figure 
>> out the historical context, but I guessed that there was some type of 
>> quarantine going on so people didn't go out for a bit and then suddenly 
>> there's 5 babies all baptized within 2 days of each other. And then there's 
>> those cases where you look and look for an ancestor's baptism and can't find 
>> it. On one ancestor of mine, we assumed it somehow got lost or wasn't 
>> recorded. When we went to find his kids being baptized, we researched back a 
>> couple of years before his marriage, just to be sure that there wasn't a kid 
>> or two born out of wedlock. That's when we found HIS baptism. About 25 years 
>> after his birth. I guess when they went to look for it in order for him to 
>> be married they couldn't find it so he was (re)baptized at that time.
>> 
>> I would say that the vast majority probably happened within a week or two 
>> though. Just remember, a few exception can be found, so don't lock yourself 
>> into a week or 10 days and give up.  Cheri
>> 
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Scott Edward Anderson 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Cheri,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for that information. How soon after birth does baptism typically 
>>> occur in the Azores? A week after birth? A month?
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>>   
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> The street where I was living on when I was baptized is not where I live 
>>>> now. It's not even the same city. 
>>>> 
>>>> When the 1900-1905 books became available, I went to the archives in Ponta 
>>>> Delgada to find the rest of the siblings of my immigrant ancestor. The 
>>>> youngest sibling was born in 1900 and had a margin full of notes. He 
>>>> married and moved to the other side of the island and died there in 1990. 
>>>> The next day, I went to the praça and found a taxi driver who agreed to 
>>>> take me over to the other side of the island (that was a whole story in 
>>>> itself). 
>>>> 
>>>> When we got there, the taxi driver went to the neighborhood bar or pub 
>>>> first! I waited in the taxi. When he came out a few minutes later, he said 
>>>> that they told him that we were to go over to the church (a festa was 
>>>> going on, so I was in luck) and find the old man with the cane and hat 
>>>> named so-and-so. Over to the church we went. And the taxi driver found the 
>>>> man. He verified pretty much what I had researched - the youngest sibling, 
>>>> Antonio, was from the other side of the island, Ribeira das Tainhas, he 
>>>> married Senhorinha, blah blah blah. Then the old man said that Antonio had 
>>>> a son who went to Canada. I had a story of some of the family going to 
>>>> Canada. The old man couldn't remember the son's name or how long ago this 
>>>> happened though. :(
>>>> 
>>>> Many years passed. One day, a guy named Altino posts on this list. I 
>>>> thought the name was interesting, as I had a photo of an Altino De Melo in 
>>>> my possesion, taken in the 40s or 50s. The Altino in the photo was in a 
>>>> military uniform. The Altino writing the post did not have the writing 
>>>> style of a man of that age. I thought it was a strange coincidence, until 
>>>> Altino emailed me directly with a question about this list. In another 
>>>> paragraph he mentioned that he was about to start researching his father's 
>>>> side of the family, from Ribeira Quente. One of my freguesias!
>>>> 
>>>> After I picked myself off the floor, I emailed him back with the photo of 
>>>> Altino the soldier and said to him something along the lines of, "Who are 
>>>> you?" He writes back and asks what I was doing with a photo of his uncle 
>>>> Altino, his namesake. A couple of emails later I find out he lives in 
>>>> Canada. He was the son of the man who went to Canada. Antonio's grandson.
>>>> 
>>>> A couple of years after that, Altino was in California and I got to meet 
>>>> him and spend the afternoon with him. So I met him on my home turf, so to 
>>>> speak! It took me only 15, 16, 17 years to find someone from that branch 
>>>> of the family!!
>>>> 
>>>> Your friend may not be lucky on the first try. It may be convoluted to try 
>>>> to find family as it was in my case. He can go to the freguesia and ask if 
>>>> anyone knows about that family. Old photos help. My other ancestor had a 
>>>> younger sister who was deaf. I show her picture around the freguesia and 
>>>> they all know who the deaf woman was. Thank goodness for photos! Also look 
>>>> for places where people congregate. The neighborhood bar or pub, perhaps 
>>>> in a praça, perhaps near the church, or maybe over at the Casa do Povo.
>>>> 
>>>> Early in my research, I had interviewed my grandfather's eldest brother 
>>>> (everyone else had died). He had gone there and met family. He gave me a 
>>>> Christmas card with a return address. The family still lived at that 
>>>> address. So that one was lucky!
>>>> 
>>>> Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. Well not really the worst, 
>>>> but it could be a long haul.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>>>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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