Will look when I get back home.
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 9:59 PM, Hugo Campos <hug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you so much, Cheri!
> I know... it's hard not to get lost in the weeds.
> All I'd love to find is:
> 1) My great grandfather's date of birth (and death).
> 2) The year of his departure for Rio de Janeiro
> I used one of the resources you suggested, "immigrant arrivals in Rio de
> Janeiro - 1885-1891 <http://www.an.gov.br/rvbndes/menu/menu.php>", and
> was able to find one single record matching his name. However, the search
> result says he arrived in Rio de Janeiro on April 19, 1907 at age 23. If
> correct, it means he was born in 1884.
> Also, if accurate, he arrived on board a ship by the name "Pernambuco"
> from Madeira Islands, not from the Azores. That threw me off.
> There is another discrepancy: the record shows that he entered Brazil with
> a wife (20 years old) and one year old child. My maternal grandmother and
> his only child was born on February 11, 1906. So, she would have been one
> year old in April 1907. However, we were told she was born in Rio de
> This is all so confusing!
> I also found a picture of his mother, my great-great grandmother, but the
> photo is undated. I believe her to be named Maria Maxima do Carmo.
> I wish I could search the names of the passengers that arrived on board
> the Pernambuco in 1906.
> On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 1:03:24 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>> Hi Hugo,
>> If the group photo was taken in April, maybe someone was handing out a
>> copy to each of the men. To keep track, they noted the date they gave them
>> the photo??
>> Maybe it's the date each man left. So many things it could be.
>> At least it establishes more of a time line for you. The photo was taken
>> in Terceira, as noted on the front of the card. The back says the photo was
>> taken in 1872. All of the people in the photo were in Terceira on that date
>> in 1872.
>> So where is your Joaquim who was born 1875? Cheri
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Hugo Campos <hug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Apologies, Cheri. I do not wish to exclude anyone.
>>> What I said above (for the benefit of all) is this:
>>> Joaquim de Souza Silveira, my maternal grandfather, had at least one
>>> brother (whom, I believe, was older). His name was José de Souza Silveira.
>>> I know little about him, but I have two photos of his, one of which shows
>>> him sitting among friends (perhaps relatives, I don't know). I do not know
>>> if it's the same person mentioned in the marriage registry found by Júlio.
>>> In the back of the photograph someone identified the men pictured as
>>> Manoel Lourenço (age 24), Manoel Mendes (26), José Borges (22), and José
>>> Silveira (35). The photograph is dated April 25, 1872.
>>> Other dates and additional notes were later added to the photo, although
>>> I do not know what these dates represent. So confusing!
>>> For Manoel Lourenço, the date of February 6, 1872 was added. For Manoel
>>> Mendes, April 23, 1872. There is no date for José Borges. And finally, for
>>> José Silveira, the date is September 18, 1872. The photo is signed JSS
>>> (which may be for Joaquim or José de Souza Silveira). Not sure.
>>> Additional information written on the back of the photo says:
>>> - (Manoel) Mendes (turned) 40 on December 17, 1885.
>>> - Joaquim de Souza, 40 on August 5, 1886.
>>> - He died (not sure whom) on May 12, 1903. (This is certainly not
>>> Joaqum de Souza Silveira, my great-grandfather, who died in the late
>>> early 1950s)
>>> - João Marcelino S. (or J.) May 19.
>>> It's all a mystery I am hoping to unravel.
>>> Thank you so much!
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