Hey Cheri…that Charlemagne “thing” is crazy. I don’t understand how that works but how far back fo you think one can go before it gets “CRAZY”?
Gordon > On Feb 6, 2018, at 10:38 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Mickey, > > Here's an article that Kathy Cardoza and I co-wrote together on Portuguese > naming practices: https://goo.gl/4aU6sP <https://goo.gl/4aU6sP> > > We don't mention "foreign" names in our article, as "foreign" is only from > the view point of another country. Many Portuguese would consider "Williams" > to be foreign. James Guill in "A History of the Azores Islands" has a list of > surnames with their origin. It was reprinted in the American Portuguese > Genealogical and Historical Society. They are no longer around and Guill's > book is out of print. Many of us have a copy and will look up surnames for > you. > > I haven't made a list of where the surname came from, but I do find the vast > majority come from parents or grandparents. I wouldn't limit myself to grands > though. They could pick it from wherever. Some surnames I didn't figure out. > > You are going to have to work the records back. It will state if a parent was > from a different island or country. It will take a lot of work. I've never > traced one of my non-Portuguese based surnames to another country. I ran out > of records in the Azores. I got one line to Madeira and a couple of lines to > Portugal. If you get a real good line, you'll find out that you go to > Charlemagne, but we all go back to him. Good luck, Cheri > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:37 AM, Mickey Blue <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Hi all, I've read online a bit about Portuguese naming practices. One article > about the subject mentioned "Foreign names" used in Portuguese family names, > and mentioned for example Bettencourt and it also Avila (citing it as being > of Spanish origin). The article also mentioned that surnames could come from > either parent or grandparent for that matter, but no further removed. My > great great grandfather was Manuel Jacinto Avila, his father, was Domingos > Antonio ( according to church records for my great grandfather Manuel > Jacinto's birth, so I imagine the name came from his mother, or a > grandparent). I cannot find birth records in Azores for Manuel Jacinto Avila > or Domingos Antonio. I'm thinking that could be because they migrated from > Spain. Can anyone suggest how I could establish if that was true? > > This is a great discussion group and I have displayed my ignorance in family > research in the past, but everyone has been very forgiving and most helpful, > especially Cheri and I thank you all. > > Warm regards > Michael > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores > <https://groups.google.com/group/azores>. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores > <https://groups.google.com/group/azores>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

