If I may, and just to clarify, the term aldeia was not and it is not
presently used in the Azores.

The name "Aldeia das Cuadas" in Flores is the name given for Rural Tourism
to the old settlement that was abandoned. It became a resourt for Rural
Tourism.  The place is still called "lugar das Cuadas" and is part of the
Civil Parish of Faja Grande.

According to census experts there is no clear definition of Aldeia,
Freguesia and Lugar.  Some say a freguesia becomes an aldeia when the
setting is rural. Lugar is a locality, a place, and to be a place it must
meet the minimum requirement of 10 houses in a row.

Since we're reading/researching Church records the sequence outlined by
Cheri is in line with the evolution of said records.

Cheers,






On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 1:44 AM, John Vasconcelos <gfsjo...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> * Cheri,*
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> *Regarding "aldeia" there is one use of that designation that is unique to
> the Island of Flores. The small abandoned lugar of Cuada (formerly known as
> Quada) between the Freguesias of Faja Grande and Fajazinha is now known as
> "Aldeia da Cuada" (google it). I don't know all the details or legalities
> but, in summary, back about 2000, a couple of entrepreneurs ( the husband
> from Pico and the wife from Flores) obtained funding and permission to
> lease or purchase an abandoned village, install modern but simple kitchens
> and bathrooms and a phone line. I have stayed there 3 or 4 times. When I
> was there the summer of 2002, I got up in the wee hours of the morning and
> called into the AOL geanealogy chat room and surprised the host (don't
> remember the host but it wasn't you Cheri - might have been Mel). Granted,
> it wasn't an official government designation, but the name of government
> sanctioned resort. Aldeia da Cuada, Ilha das Flores - Açores. Turismo rural
> Açores. <http://aldeiadacuada.com/en/>aldeiadacuada.com/en/
> <http://aldeiadacuada.com/en/> *
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 10:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What do you call a suburb?
> To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
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> The words vary from the Azores to the continent.
>
> In the Azores, a suburb or neighborhood is usually referred to as a
> "lugar" in the documents.
>
> Freguesia is a civil parish, not a church parish. Let's not go there and
> confuse people, because most North Americans (who are Catholic) think of
> their parish as the church that they attend. So just call a freguesia a
> freguesia. It's what used in the documents. They don't say aldeia in the
> Azores. I haven't seen it in a document, but I've seen it in the online
> language class (continental Portuguese).  Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Judy Thompson <judyte...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> We all refer to places like Lajes  on Pico in concelho of Lajes as a
>> freguesia but what do we call places like Ribeira do Meio or Rua Nova which
>> are like suburbs or neighborhoods in Lajes or for Ribeira Seca in Calheta
>> on Sao Jorge, what do we call Portal or Entre Grutoes?  Can't find my
>> English/Portuguese dictionary so looked on google translate and found the
>> following possibilities:
>>
>> suburb = suburbio
>> village = aldeia
>> town or city = cidade
>> neighborhood = bairro
>>
>> Also did not realize that freguesia is actually parish.
>>
>> Hoping Portuguese speakers will have an answer.
>>
>> Thx for any clarification.
>>
>> Judy Thompson
>>
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