Yes, my text was a bit confusing and incomplete. Let me try to fill the gaps on my previous message.
- My great great grandparents: Antonio Martins d'Azara and Theodora Emilia. They got married on 1844, according to their marriage registration that I could find at the culturazores website (http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SE-C-1828-1849/TER-AH-SE-C-1828-1849_item1/P227.html) - right page. - Then on 1845 my great grandfather was born. His name was Antonio Aniceto Azara de Oliveira. His baptism certificate I could also find at the culturazores website. ( http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1845-1857/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1845-1857_item1/P5.html) - bottom left page - Then on 1857 a passport was issued for Antonio Martins d'Azara (age 12). Passport 186, issued on november, 1857 (http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1857-1863/PASSAPORTES-TER-1857-1863_item1/P16.html) - And finally on 1870, a copy of a document called "habilitacão" was issued at the General Consulate of Portugal in Brazil (This one I have in paper here with me). It says it is a copy and that the original was issued on january, 1858 (which matches the date of the boarding in the ship, but not the original passport but is close). This is what is written at the habilitação (besides showing the same biometrics information and age as the passport above): Em 1858 JOSE HENRIQUES FERREIRA Consul Geral de Portugal no Rio de Janeiro, & ct. Faço saber Antonio Aniceto Ázara de Oliveira, filho de Antonio Martins d'Ázara, natural da Ilha Terceira d’onde veio para este Império na Barca Portugueza Novo Rival em 2 de janeiro de 1858. Marceneiro. - Then on 1872 Antonio Aniceto Azara de Oliveira (my great grandfather) gets married at the age of 27 (according to his marriage certificate). Looking at all those dates together I keep thinking that the passport issued on 1857 belonged to Antonio Aniceto Azara de Oliveira, who really was 12 years old by the time, but I can`t figure out why the name there is his father`s. So I was wondering if anyone had seen this before. Thanks!! On Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 12:19:39 AM UTC-3, Cheri Mello wrote: > > You didn't state your great-grandfather's name. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 7:27 PM, Joana Ázara <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> I forgot to mention his passport is the # 186 >> >> On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 10:50:54 PM UTC-3, Joana Ázara wrote: >>> >>> My great grandfather, whose baptism certificate some people here helped >>> to translate (thanks so much!!), was born in 1845 and moved to Brazil in >>> 1858 (jan, 2nd at the Novo Rival ship). By this time he was 12 years old. >>> The story according to some of my family members is that the 12 year old >>> boy came alone to Brazil. The passport shows the age of 12 but it was issue >>> with his father's name (Antonio Martins d'Azara). Has anyone seen this >>> happening before? I am wondering if that used to happen if the person was >>> under 18... >>> >>> This is the link for his passport: >>> >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1857-1863/PASSAPORTES-TER-1857-1863_item1/P16.html >>> >>> We still have the original passport in hands and it shows exactly the >>> same info as the one in this book at the link. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
