No indication where Pico he is from. But Ursula is died in N.S. da Conceição of
Angra. perhaps her obit said where she is from.Beatriz is widow of João Coelho
(de Ornelas) died in Altares. This mariage is in Santa Sé (1718, March 25, img
265).
Abs
Philippe Garnier Paris - France
Em segunda-feira, 3 de setembro de 2018 17:40:47 GMT+2,
<doreencaet...@gmail.com> escreveu:
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Ok Philippe. I found his second marriage to Beatriz do Rosario. This one is
very hard to read. I think in says Joao Soares, Island of Pico, widower of
Ursula da Silveira, (I think is says that she was from Pico but does it say
where?) then it says something about Angra?
marrying Beatriz do Rosario, daughter of Joao Coelho ? and ? (are they also
from Pico?)
Guessing at this point. Doreen
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From: 'Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 7:25 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares Marriage
ofJoaoMachadoToledo and Rosa Maria
Hi Doreen,
Yes his name is Soares. His marriage with Ana Maria is in Fonte Bastardo (1773,
february 25); 2nd book, fl. 20v. It is his 3rd marriage. The 2nd is in Altares
(1747, October 21) , 1713-1763 book, img 123. He is widow of Ursula da Silveira
and native from Ilha do Pico.
Abraços
Philippe Garnier Paris - France
Em segunda-feira, 3 de setembro de 2018 15:33:10 GMT+2,
<doreencaet...@gmail.com> escreveu:
Yes. Thank you. It was my faul.t I was looking at two records at the same time.
I posted a correction but Rosemarie responded without reading it. I was
reading the word widow as a last name Vieira for the bride and then thought it
was her father. Once I looked at it again I realized it was widow. In a reply
to the original post I posted the link to Rosa Marie first marriage. I need
help reading that record.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P96.html
It says Sebastiao Soares de Melo, son of Joao Soares de Melo and Ana Maria,
married Rosa Maria, daughter of Manuel Goncalves Fialho and Benedicta do
Espirito Santo. I question if I have the correct groom’s father’s name. Could
it be Sousa? Also does it say what village they are from because I can not find
then in the marriage index for Altares? This is why I question my reading of
the groom’s father’s name.
Thanks again, Doreen
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From: bsei2...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 2:55 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares Marriage of
JoaoMachadoToledo and Rosa Maria
Hello Doreen,
I think Rosmarie is right about the bride's parents in the lower right record.
However, that is the marriage of Manuel Francisco da Silva and Maria Isabel
rather than the couple in your subject line. Your couple is the top left
record and the bride's parents are not listed; she is listed as the widow of
Sebastiao Soares buried in this same parish of Sao Roque.
Bill Seidler
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