My family uses Jesuina for Josephine.

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From: Cheri Mello
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 12:01 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestor info- Antonio Brier

Corrine M,

Brier is not a Portuguese surname. It must be corrupted from something else. 
Maybe someone has some ideas.

Josephine could be Josefa there. So keep that name in mind too.

Common Portuguese names for males are Manuel, Antonio, Jose, Francisco, Joao. 
We all have Antonio's in our trees. 

Oliver would be Oliveira over there. The final vowel was kinda swallowed and 
not enunciated, so it sounded closer to o-LEE-ver (ver rhymes with bear. A 
native speaker can do better, I'm sure).

I don't know when you tested on 23 and Me. If it was their v. 3 or v. 4 chip, 
you can transfer to Family Tree DNA (FTDNA). If you tested with 23 and Me since 
August 2017, you are on their v. 5 chip and it won't transfer. 23andMe tests 
about 640,000 SNPs (compared to FTDNA's 700,000), however, only 160,000 of 
those SNPs can be used by FTDNA (the rest that 23 and Me uses are medical, I 
believe). FTDNA won't imputate either (make the computer take a guess - too 
many false positives, I'm sure). I understand that GedMatch kinda separates 
23andMe's v. 5 kits because they have so few family markers (Ancestry DNA has 
about 350,000 SNPs). If you tested at AncestryDNA, you can transfer as they 
have about half the family SNPs that FTDNA tests for. Or you can just test on 
FTDNA and get 100% of their SNPs. Let me know if this interests you.

You need to do more work on your Josephine. You need to figure out her 
freguesia (like a village) on Faial, her birthdate (or something within a 
range) and who her parents were. Having Antonio is not enough. I have 6 
Josefa's in my genealogy program who have father's named Antonio. I'm sure 
other long-time researchers can beat my numbers. 

Start with Josephine's death and work backwards. You have no death dates (or 
birth or marriage) for her. Or you didn't state them in the post. You need 3 
pieces of information: Name, date, and place and you need it for 3 key events: 
birth, marriage, and death. There's 30+ pages of how to here: 
https://goo.gl/HQJ59h 

Good luck and keep us posted on how you are doing. Or if you have previously 
unposted information to share.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 11:32 AM Corinne Merritt <[email protected]> wrote:
We are trying to find info on my Great Grandmother, Josephine Brier.  I found a 
marriage cert to my G Grandfather, John F Barnes and it states that her father 
was Antonio.  I have also seen a naturalization record for him from Fayal, 
Azores Islands, Portugal.  He was born in 1872 and Naturalized in 1900.  Anyone 
can help me find his side of the tree or know where I can obtain info for him?  
There is very limited from what I can find.  I am wondering if he changed his 
name possibly?.  Possible last name may have been Oliver as a new cousin showed 
up on my 23 and me with Portuguese decent and one of her relatives had his 
brother listed as Antone on a census.  I am thinking this might be him and 
maybe the census just added "Oliver" since he said it was his brother, or he 
changed his name.... or totally different person all together!  I am stuck and 
need help!   [email protected]  or [email protected] (secondary)
Thanks to anyone that can assist. 
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