Hi Cheri,
Thank you so much. This pretty much backs up what I have.

I have never done any research on anyone leaving the Azores. Where do I 
find this information? Ship manifests and all that, is there a database?

Leonor

On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:32:54 UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Hi Leonor,
>
> I have to get going, so I don't have time to think about your evidence. 
> But I can do a quick look up from the Hawaii end.
>
> Passport Registrations: Portuguese Immigrants from Azores to Sandwich 
> Isles 1879-1883 by Bob De Mello. Page 217
> Manuel de Medeiros Manteiga, 33, son of Boaventura de Medeiros and Joana 
> Candida, from Rosario, Lagoa
> wife Maria da Conceicao, 35, dau. of Jose d'Oliveira and Joana Emilia. No 
> place given
> Children: Maria 10, Ricarda 8, Maria 6. All born Rosario, Lagoa. On the 
> Bell Rock
>
> Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr. Page 276
> Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga, 33, Bell Rock 1883, with Maria da Conceicao, 
> 35, wife
> Children: Maria 10, Ricarda 8, Maria 6, Manoel 3, Jose 5 months
>
> Both books transcribed by humans and people can and do make mistakes (Bob 
> De Mello's book has the mistake with the missing children; however, he 
> gives the parents' names whereas Knowlton does not).
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 9:51 AM <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I came across a passenger list for Hawaii. I believe the family on there 
>> are my family but the wife has a different name. Here is my evidence:
>>
>> Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga April 27, 1849
>> Maria da Gloria about 1848
>> Married on May 11, 1872 
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1870-1879_item1/P62.html
>> Groom's parents: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>> Bride's parents: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia
>>
>> Children:
>> Maria - Mar. 29 1872 
>> Parents are listed as: Manoel Medeiros/Maria da Conceicao
>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna de Jesus
>> Mat: Jose de Medeiros Zangao/Anna de Jesus
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879_item1/P151.html
>>
>> Ricarda - Oct. 26 1874
>> Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>> Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879_item1/P340.html
>>
>> Maria - Jan. 16, 1877
>> Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>> Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna de Jesus
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879_item1/P488.html
>>
>> Manoel - Dec. 30, 1879
>> Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>> Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1880-1881/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1880-1881_item1/P6.html
>>
>> Jose - Oct. 19, 1882
>> Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>> Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1882-1888/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1882-1888_item1/P121.html
>>
>> The only information on the passenger list from 1883 is:
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2019-04-10 at 12.40.11 PM.png]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> So Manoel would have been born on approximately 1850
>> Maria da Conceicao - approx. 1848
>> Maria - approx. 1873
>> Ricarda - approx. 1875
>> Manoel - approx. 1880
>> Maria - approx. 1877
>> Jose - approx. 1883
>>
>> Only once does the mother show as Maria da Conceicao on the children's 
>> baptismal records. The ages are all pretty close, down to the manifest wife 
>> being older than the husband. I have not found any other records that would 
>> match this manifest. I do have another Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga in my 
>> tree and he is married to a Maria da Conceicao, however, her parents are 
>> Jacinto Carvalho and Jacintha de Jesus and he was born in 1823.  In this 
>> case, Boaventura only has one son by the name of Manoel (as far as I have 
>> researched).  Thoughts? 
>>
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