Thanks Margaret On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 8:26 PM Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> wrote:
> Terri, > > > > It’s good to do your own search to verify but you will be searching in > vain, if indeed this is the couple you are working on. They only had 3 > children (Umbelina, Joao and Maria] plus one unborn child at the time of > the father’s death. Umbelina was already married by the time the parents > were wed. > > > > Here’s the marriage record on the death bed of Joao Travassos and Josefa > Mariana, right sight. Look at the bottom where you will see the named > children the couple had between them. > > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P115.html > > > > I have ancestors married at 12 and 13 years of age. > > > > > > > > *From: *Terri Santos <[email protected]> > *Sent: *May 25, 2019 8:11 PM > *To: *[email protected] > *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco > dePimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca? > > > > Thanks everyone for your points.... Now time to search > > > > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 8:02 PM Ângela Loura <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Terri, also search for Maria's parents death records, to see if the number > of children is mentioned. > > > > Cheri Mello <[email protected]> escreveu no dia domingo, 26/05/2019 > à(s) 00:48: > > The index was made by a human and humans can make mistakes. Look at all > the kids and look for gaps between kids. Then search those gaps by hand. > > > > I'm suspicious that there was only ONE Maria! > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > > > > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 4:45 PM Terri Santos <[email protected]> > wrote: > > This is the only Maria born to Joao and Marianna that I found in the > index. > > If she was baptized in Ponta Delgada, so then I'll look there....perhaps > this couple lived there too? > > > > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 7:37 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: > > Terri, > > > > Did you find every single kid for Joao Travassos and Josepha Marianna? You > know every family needs AT LEAST 3 Marias! LOL > > > > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > > > > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 4:10 PM Terri Santos <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Here's the marriage record I found in SM-VFC for Francisco and Maria. > Here it mentions Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada for her again. > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P242.html > > > > > this is the death record for Maria > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899_item1/P64.html > > > > > Seems to be the same person, but when I do the math....she is 11 years old > at marriage.. > > ???? > > > > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 2:56 PM Margaret Vicente < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Terri, > > > > The record states the different dates and places of baptism for the Joao > and Maria, who were both Expostos; Joao on Mar 9th 1834 baptized same day > in Candelaria. Maria baptized in Sao Sebastiao de Ponta Delgada … days of > of the month of January of 1844. > > > > The document is a legitimization record for these two exposto children on > their father’s deatch bed as declared in the hour of his death recognizing > them and marrying/receiving their Mother ……… marriage … book 8 of this > Parish pages 113…. > > > > It also goes to say the mother also recognized them as her own children… > > > > Record signed and dated June 11 1845 > > > > m > > > > *From: *Terri Santos <[email protected]> > *Sent: *May 25, 2019 1:06 PM > *To: *Azores Genealogy <[email protected]> > *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de > Pimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca? > > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846_item1/P70.html > > On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 1:01:46 PM UTC-4, Terri Santos wrote: > > I`m trying to get some clarity for one Maria de Jesus in my files. She > married and died in Sao Miguel Vila Franca do Campo. > > Her death record on 10 July 1896 states she died at the age of 53 years > old. 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