Bill,

The surname may include Surdo, not necessarily that he was surdo.  The Mother 
is Isabel Nunes Nordelo.

I checked Tavares Silva tree and he has this couple, he included Surdo as part 
of the surname.  Have a look.

https://gw.geneanet.org/tavaressilva?iz=8&n=nordelo&oc=0&p=francisco+lopes

Margaret
From: JR
Sent: August 19, 2019 9:16 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1644 Marriage, Estrella, Ribeira Grande, 
SaoMiguel

Surdo e mudo means deaf and mute, so perhaps he was deaf. 

JR

On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 12:28:21 AM UTC-4, Bill Seidler wrote:
Thanks.  In this case scribble-scrabble = Surdo, which is also a name I don't 
recall seeing before.

I appreciate the help!

Bill

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 9:25:33 PM UTC-7, JR wrote:
Yes, I think it is Nunes. The mark before the N comes from the above P in 
Lopes. And Manoel Dias Surdo.

JR

On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 12:16:41 AM UTC-4, Bill Seidler wrote:
Thanks Cheri...I see what you mean about the line above.  Could it be Nunes?

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 8:53:22 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
HI Bill,

The groom's mom.....the middle name isn't Simoes. That's the "p" from the line 
above dangling down. I wonder if it's supposed to be Morais, but it's spelled 
Mores?
Bride's dad...I don't know. Manuel Dias Scribble-scrabble.

You have the rest right.  Cheri
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 5:59 PM Bill Seidler <bsei...@gmail.com> wrote:
Marriage of Francisco Lopes Nordello and Maria Alvares, top left at 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1627-1654/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1627-1654_item1/P120.html

Looking for confirmation or correction.  What I have is:

Matriz da Estrella, 11 Jun 1644
Groom: Francisco Lopes Nordello, son of Francisco Daniel? and his wife Isabel 
Simoes Nordella, moradores do Porto Formoso? NS da Graça
Bride: Maria Alvares, daughter of Manuel Dias ???? and his wife Maria Alvares, 
moradores of this parish

Thanks,
Bill Seidler
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