Thanks Cheri! I'm sure you're right, and that there were other factors that determined why they ended up on S. Miguel for the wedding. Such a mystery!
:D Linda On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 12:27:18 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: > > I looked up a calendar for 1849 and yes, Lent would have been from 22 > February and 8 April (Easter Sunday). You couldn't marry during Lent. > However, it didn't matter where you married, as the marriage banns had to > be posted at both the bride and groom's home churches. Maybe they moved > around trying to conceive her pregnancy (that's a bit expensive), but a > possibility. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 12:00 PM linda <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> >> Probably this is the source for that info in the database about the >> Gazelle, 1870: >> >> >> https://www.worldcat.org/title/logbook-of-the-ship-gazelle-1870-oct-26-1872-nov-28/oclc/71254679&referer=brief_results >> >> I can't see where the logbook itself is held, but it must still exist. >> >> It seems that the whaling museum has a logbook database in an excel file >> (hope this link will work): >> >> >> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=16&ved=2ahUKEwik0OSjx6TnAhWhna0KHcvrA3AQFjAPegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.whalingmuseum.org%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2FDocuments%2FLogbook%2520Database%2520Master_web.xls&usg=AOvVaw3aUTqkSiGAaEq18He9SVHv >> >> It comes up near the top of a google search on the terms >> >> ship seconet logbook 1855 >> >> I have to run, but hope this provides a lead. >> >> :) >> >> Linda >> >> On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 11:33:02 AM UTC-8, Bill Seidler wrote: >>> >>> Sorry but in my memory I co-mingled some whaling crew entries. There >>> are many Francis Joseph, Francisco Jose, or other iterations in the whaling >>> crew database. Many can be eliminated by age or residence. I also >>> eliminated any entry before 1855 since he was listed as a carpenter and not >>> a mariner his son's baptisms that year. That left several that didn't have >>> enough data to be eliminated, but two that had additional data consistent >>> with being my Francisco Jose. It was these two I co-mingled. First was >>> 1855 on the Ship Seconet who was listed as a COOPER but it did not give his >>> age or residence. A cooper would be consistent with Francisco Jose being a >>> carpenter and with Francis Joseph in New Zealand being a cooper. The >>> second was a Francis Joseph on the Bark Gazelle in 1870 which gives his age >>> as 43 and his residence as Sao Jorge, Azores. Either or both of these >>> could fit (or not) my wife's ancestor. >>> >>> Bill Seidler >>> >>> On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:57:57 AM UTC-8, Bill Seidler wrote: >>>> >>>> Thank you Linda, your insight is always appreciated and helpful. Sorry >>>> for the delay in responding. You are correct that I search for an Azorean >>>> obit for him. I looked through 1911 in Urzelina where he last lived and >>>> in >>>> Praia, Graciosa where he was born. The DNA evidence coupled with the name >>>> and occupation circumstance seems very compelling. Another coincidence is >>>> that the New Bedford Whaling Museum database show that the was a crew >>>> member on a Whaler in 1867 named Francisco Jose Cordeiro from Sao Jorge, >>>> Azores, whose job was "cooper". >>>> >>>> Attached are timelines of what I have for him in the Azores and what >>>> Tony (my New Zealand contact) provided from his records. >>>> >>>> Thanks again, >>>> Bill >>>> >>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/607ecd66-5935-4306-a531-6cc352edfac2%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/607ecd66-5935-4306-a531-6cc352edfac2%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/8e7c15ec-d561-4d46-a187-60bd28edb7bf%40googlegroups.com.
